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As members of Disney’s exclusive Club 33, Scott and Diana Anderson visited the two Anaheim theme parks 60 to 80 times a year. The private club, with its wood-paneled trophy room and other amenities, was the center of their social life. They brought friends, acquaintances and business associates. As a couple, they went on the Haunted Mansion ride nearly 1,000 times. The club’s yearly dues were $31,500, and with travel and hotel expenses, the Arizona couple were spending close to $125,000 annually to get their Disney fix.

All of it came to an end in 2017, when Disney revoked their membership in the club after an allegation that Scott Anderson was drunk in public. Diana Anderson, a hard-core Disney aficionado since childhood, called it “a stab in the heart.” The Andersons, both 60, have spent the years since then — and hundreds of thousands of dollars — trying to get back into Club 33. On Tuesday, an Orange County jury rejected their claim that Disney ousted them improperly. It had taken the Andersons more than a decade to gain membership in Club 33, which includes access to exclusive lounges, dining, VIP tours and special events.

They finally made it off the waiting list in 2012.

“They finally became part of this special place,” their attorney, Sean Macias, told jurors in the civil trial. “That was their spot. That was their happy place, their home.”
At about 9:50 p.m. on Sept. 3, 2017, security guards found Scott Anderson near the entrance of California Adventure displaying signs of what they took to be intoxication, including slurred speech and trouble standing, according to trial testimony.

“His breath smelled of alcohol quite a lot,” one of the guards said in court. The club swiftly ousted them. Macias said Scott Anderson had two to three drinks and that Disney did an incomplete and slipshod investigation, with no Breathalyzer or blood tests and no videos of Anderson’s behavior that night. “They have not established that Mr. Anderson was intoxicated,” Macias said. Instead, he argued, Anderson’s symptoms were the result of a vestibular migraine, which can be triggered by red wine — among the drinks Anderson consumed that day. In effect, Macias argued, Disney was punishing Anderson for a medical condition. A medical expert testified for the Andersons that the symptoms of a vestibular migraine could be confused with intoxication, with a neurologist hired by Disney countering that Anderson’s behavior was more likely the consequence of drinking.
The September 2017 incident was not the first time the Andersons had run afoul of Club 33 management. The year before, Diana had been briefly suspended for “using some salty language … a couple F-words,” as Macias put it.

Macias told jurors that the Andersons filed suit against Disney to vindicate their reputation. “He doesn’t want to be known as a drunk,” Macias said. “They love that place. They took the fight to Disney because it’s his name.”
In their complaint, the Andersons asked to be reinstated to Club 33, with a $10,500 reimbursement for four months of unused membership in 2017. They also wanted $231,000 — roughly equal to seven years in the club. Jonathan E. Phillips, an attorney representing Disney, said Club 33 membership guidelines forbid public intoxication. “They did not want to pay the consequences of failing to follow the rules,” Phillips told jurors, adding that Scott’s conduct “cost his wife of 40 years her lifetime dream of having access to Club 33.” The security guards, who no longer work for Disney, were more credible than the Andersons, Phillips said — “What possible reason did the security guards have to lie to you?”

In their original complaint, the Andersons alleged that Club 33 targeted them for retaliation because they had complained about a club member harassing other members and staff. But Superior Court Judge Deborah Servino curtailed that line of evidence, which the Andersons saw as the death knell for their case. “My wife and I are both dead set that this is an absolute wrong, and we will fight this to the death,” Scott, who owns a golf course in Gilbert, Ariz., told The Times. “There is no way we’re letting this go.” He said the lawsuit has cost him about $400,000. “My retirement is set back five years,” he said. “I’m paying through the nose. Every day, I’m seeing another bill, and I’m about to keel over.” He said he will appeal. His wife said she wants to keep fighting. “I’ll sell a kidney,” Diana said. “I don’t care.”

 
My kids haven't been to Disneyland yet. They have been to Moab, Johnson Valley, Mammoth Mountain, Lake Tahoe, various monster jams and supercross races, tons of national and state parks, and all sorts of rad surf breaks.

My goal is that when they finally make it to Disneyland, it'll suck compared to all the other great stuff in the world.

Disneyland is make-believe and there are so many amazing things to see in the real world that it should be at the bottom of everyone's list.
 
My kids haven't been to Disneyland yet. They have been to Moab, Johnson Valley, Mammoth Mountain, Lake Tahoe, various monster jams and supercross races, tons of national and state parks, and all sorts of rad surf breaks.

My goal is that when they finally make it to Disneyland, it'll suck compared to all the other great stuff in the world.

Disneyland is make-believe and there are so many amazing things to see in the real world that it should be at the bottom of everyone's list.
Fucking "A" spot on!
Grandson (13y/o) learned a couple of valuable lessons last week. He got lost looking for a slot canyon off of Hole in the Rock road. Kept his cool and backtracked his way out of a serious situation. GF had advised him to manage his water carefully. Returned to trail head with 1/4 cup of water and 30 minutes of daylight. :beer::beer::beer:
Kid is independent and tough. Fuck the Disney shit...:stirthepot:
 
I wonder how many homeless people that money could have housed.

I wonder how many illegal aliens all that money could have supported.

I wonder how much global warming all that money could have prevented.
 
Spend your money anyway you chose. You want to blow $125k a year on Disney, knock yourself out. It's every Americans right to spend their cash on stupid shit. If a business decides they no longer want you there, that's their right. You want to spend hundreds of thousands on an unethical attorney trying to force a business to allow you back on their property, that's also your business.
 
My kids haven't been to Disneyland yet. They have been to Moab, Johnson Valley, Mammoth Mountain, Lake Tahoe, various monster jams and supercross races, tons of national and state parks, and all sorts of rad surf breaks.

My goal is that when they finally make it to Disneyland, it'll suck compared to all the other great stuff in the world.

Disneyland is make-believe and there are so many amazing things to see in the real world that it should be at the bottom of everyone's list.
This. I've been twice and both times as an adult, no intention of ever going again unless someone else is paying.
 
Spend your money anyway you chose. You want to blow $125k a year on Disney, knock yourself out. It's every Americans right to spend their cash on stupid shit. If a business decides they no longer want you there, that's their right. You want to spend hundreds of thousands on an unethical attorney trying to force a business to allow you back on their property, that's also your business.
All this is well within all parties rights.

It's also my right to point and laugh at these idiots.:homer:
 
shrug
They want to spend the money to pretend, let them
Disney doesn't want a drunk in their secret club, it is theirs, they make the rules

I have done both
I have taken my kid to Disney when she was little to go pretend, we had a blast
and We pretend to be a Trophy Truck team when we are out with my little co-driver and she is calling the course over our headset in the sxs (and we always win):grinpimp:
 
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As members of Disney’s exclusive Club 33, Scott and Diana Anderson visited the two Anaheim theme parks 60 to 80 times a year. The private club, with its wood-paneled trophy room and other amenities, was the center of their social life. They brought friends, acquaintances and business associates. As a couple, they went on the Haunted Mansion ride nearly 1,000 times. The club’s yearly dues were $31,500, and with travel and hotel expenses, the Arizona couple were spending close to $125,000 annually to get their Disney fix.

All of it came to an end in 2017, when Disney revoked their membership in the club after an allegation that Scott Anderson was drunk in public. Diana Anderson, a hard-core Disney aficionado since childhood, called it “a stab in the heart.” The Andersons, both 60, have spent the years since then — and hundreds of thousands of dollars — trying to get back into Club 33. On Tuesday, an Orange County jury rejected their claim that Disney ousted them improperly. It had taken the Andersons more than a decade to gain membership in Club 33, which includes access to exclusive lounges, dining, VIP tours and special events.

They finally made it off the waiting list in 2012.

“They finally became part of this special place,” their attorney, Sean Macias, told jurors in the civil trial. “That was their spot. That was their happy place, their home.”
At about 9:50 p.m. on Sept. 3, 2017, security guards found Scott Anderson near the entrance of California Adventure displaying signs of what they took to be intoxication, including slurred speech and trouble standing, according to trial testimony.

“His breath smelled of alcohol quite a lot,” one of the guards said in court. The club swiftly ousted them. Macias said Scott Anderson had two to three drinks and that Disney did an incomplete and slipshod investigation, with no Breathalyzer or blood tests and no videos of Anderson’s behavior that night. “They have not established that Mr. Anderson was intoxicated,” Macias said. Instead, he argued, Anderson’s symptoms were the result of a vestibular migraine, which can be triggered by red wine — among the drinks Anderson consumed that day. In effect, Macias argued, Disney was punishing Anderson for a medical condition. A medical expert testified for the Andersons that the symptoms of a vestibular migraine could be confused with intoxication, with a neurologist hired by Disney countering that Anderson’s behavior was more likely the consequence of drinking.
The September 2017 incident was not the first time the Andersons had run afoul of Club 33 management. The year before, Diana had been briefly suspended for “using some salty language … a couple F-words,” as Macias put it.

Macias told jurors that the Andersons filed suit against Disney to vindicate their reputation. “He doesn’t want to be known as a drunk,” Macias said. “They love that place. They took the fight to Disney because it’s his name.”
In their complaint, the Andersons asked to be reinstated to Club 33, with a $10,500 reimbursement for four months of unused membership in 2017. They also wanted $231,000 — roughly equal to seven years in the club. Jonathan E. Phillips, an attorney representing Disney, said Club 33 membership guidelines forbid public intoxication. “They did not want to pay the consequences of failing to follow the rules,” Phillips told jurors, adding that Scott’s conduct “cost his wife of 40 years her lifetime dream of having access to Club 33.” The security guards, who no longer work for Disney, were more credible than the Andersons, Phillips said — “What possible reason did the security guards have to lie to you?”

In their original complaint, the Andersons alleged that Club 33 targeted them for retaliation because they had complained about a club member harassing other members and staff. But Superior Court Judge Deborah Servino curtailed that line of evidence, which the Andersons saw as the death knell for their case. “My wife and I are both dead set that this is an absolute wrong, and we will fight this to the death,” Scott, who owns a golf course in Gilbert, Ariz., told The Times. “There is no way we’re letting this go.” He said the lawsuit has cost him about $400,000. “My retirement is set back five years,” he said. “I’m paying through the nose. Every day, I’m seeing another bill, and I’m about to keel over.” He said he will appeal. His wife said she wants to keep fighting. “I’ll sell a kidney,” Diana said. “I don’t care.”

They need to seek some professional mental health treatment.
 
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As members of Disney’s exclusive Club 33, Scott and Diana Anderson visited the two Anaheim theme parks 60 to 80 times a year. The private club, with its wood-paneled trophy room and other amenities, was the center of their social life. They brought friends, acquaintances and business associates. As a couple, they went on the Haunted Mansion ride nearly 1,000 times. The club’s yearly dues were $31,500, and with travel and hotel expenses, the Arizona couple were spending close to $125,000 annually to get their Disney fix.

All of it came to an end in 2017, when Disney revoked their membership in the club after an allegation that Scott Anderson was drunk in public. Diana Anderson, a hard-core Disney aficionado since childhood, called it “a stab in the heart.” The Andersons, both 60, have spent the years since then — and hundreds of thousands of dollars — trying to get back into Club 33. On Tuesday, an Orange County jury rejected their claim that Disney ousted them improperly. It had taken the Andersons more than a decade to gain membership in Club 33, which includes access to exclusive lounges, dining, VIP tours and special events.

They finally made it off the waiting list in 2012.

“They finally became part of this special place,” their attorney, Sean Macias, told jurors in the civil trial. “That was their spot. That was their happy place, their home.”
At about 9:50 p.m. on Sept. 3, 2017, security guards found Scott Anderson near the entrance of California Adventure displaying signs of what they took to be intoxication, including slurred speech and trouble standing, according to trial testimony.

“His breath smelled of alcohol quite a lot,” one of the guards said in court. The club swiftly ousted them. Macias said Scott Anderson had two to three drinks and that Disney did an incomplete and slipshod investigation, with no Breathalyzer or blood tests and no videos of Anderson’s behavior that night. “They have not established that Mr. Anderson was intoxicated,” Macias said. Instead, he argued, Anderson’s symptoms were the result of a vestibular migraine, which can be triggered by red wine — among the drinks Anderson consumed that day. In effect, Macias argued, Disney was punishing Anderson for a medical condition. A medical expert testified for the Andersons that the symptoms of a vestibular migraine could be confused with intoxication, with a neurologist hired by Disney countering that Anderson’s behavior was more likely the consequence of drinking.
The September 2017 incident was not the first time the Andersons had run afoul of Club 33 management. The year before, Diana had been briefly suspended for “using some salty language … a couple F-words,” as Macias put it.

Macias told jurors that the Andersons filed suit against Disney to vindicate their reputation. “He doesn’t want to be known as a drunk,” Macias said. “They love that place. They took the fight to Disney because it’s his name.”
In their complaint, the Andersons asked to be reinstated to Club 33, with a $10,500 reimbursement for four months of unused membership in 2017. They also wanted $231,000 — roughly equal to seven years in the club. Jonathan E. Phillips, an attorney representing Disney, said Club 33 membership guidelines forbid public intoxication. “They did not want to pay the consequences of failing to follow the rules,” Phillips told jurors, adding that Scott’s conduct “cost his wife of 40 years her lifetime dream of having access to Club 33.” The security guards, who no longer work for Disney, were more credible than the Andersons, Phillips said — “What possible reason did the security guards have to lie to you?”

In their original complaint, the Andersons alleged that Club 33 targeted them for retaliation because they had complained about a club member harassing other members and staff. But Superior Court Judge Deborah Servino curtailed that line of evidence, which the Andersons saw as the death knell for their case. “My wife and I are both dead set that this is an absolute wrong, and we will fight this to the death,” Scott, who owns a golf course in Gilbert, Ariz., told The Times. “There is no way we’re letting this go.” He said the lawsuit has cost him about $400,000. “My retirement is set back five years,” he said. “I’m paying through the nose. Every day, I’m seeing another bill, and I’m about to keel over.” He said he will appeal. His wife said she wants to keep fighting. “I’ll sell a kidney,” Diana said. “I don’t care.”

Let's quote the whole damn 10 page article again why don't we?:eek:
 
If I had to guess, they were more over the top/crazier than the rest of the club members and they wanted them out. As soon as they found any reason the jumped on it.

While I agree it is your $ and your life, I find it fucking weird for anyone to go to Disney unless it is with their kids/kid family related trip. Not gonna say don't do it, but don't get upset when I think you are a freak for doing it.
 
If I had to guess, they were more over the top/crazier than the rest of the club members and they wanted them out. As soon as they found any reason the jumped on it.
I have a bunch of government drone data-entry type people here at work. The number of them that live the Disney lifestyle- all the disney clothes, plan their one big vacation a year to one of the Disney resorts, Disney stickers on their back car windows, disney stuff in their cubicles, etc. is alarming. Maybe because whey they do every day sucks and they need fantasy to escape, or maybe it's some sort of addiction, I don't know, but they talk about a Disney trip the same way I'd talk about going on a trip to another country and it scares me.

Wasn't club 33 supposed to be kind of secret high zoot members only type thing? I always thought it was less Disney and more exclusive club. I can't see the average Disney lifestyle adult as fitting in there. Or am I thinking of a different club?
 
I got in to the Aniham park free years ago and still felt ripped off
 
Wasn't club 33 supposed to be kind of secret high zoot members only type thing? I always thought it was less Disney and more exclusive club. I can't see the average Disney lifestyle adult as fitting in there. Or am I thinking of a different club?
No, this is the one.

It used to be the only place at DL where you could get a drink.


It's stupid what it takes to get into it. And also stupid to go to Disney for fine dining. (If I knew which golf course in Gilbert this guy owns, I'd go piss on the first tee since I'm about a half hour away right now.)


When I worked at WDW, they were just starting to have the Disneyana conventions for the nut jobs that collect every damned thing ever made with a set of mouse ears on it. I was working the Contemporary's monorail station listening to these idiots bragging about what they'd bought downstairs at the convention and thought, "you traveled all this way, spent all that money, to buy what again?"

On the station platform, at the time, were evenly spaced "street lamps" and each had a circular decoration advertising the Disneyana Convention. One guest in line told me about his plan to "sneak onto the monorail platform tonight and steal them."

They were held on with zip ties. I took my Swiss Army knife out of my pocket and started cutting zip ties (it was late at night, no managers were likely to come by and see me doing it, and they were going to take them down the next day anyway.)

I swear this guy just about jizzed in his pants when I had cut about twelve of them off of their posts and started walking back toward him. Then I kept right on going, went over to the console where my backpack was stored, and put them inside of it. A train pulled in and I opened the gates and let the guests get aboard while smiling at him. I thought his head was going to explode, his face was so fucking red.

No soup for you!
 
No, this is the one.

It used to be the only place at DL where you could get a drink.


It's stupid what it takes to get into it. And also stupid to go to Disney for fine dining. (If I knew which golf course in Gilbert this guy owns, I'd go piss on the first tee since I'm about a half hour away right now.)


When I worked at WDW, they were just starting to have the Disneyana conventions for the nut jobs that collect every damned thing ever made with a set of mouse ears on it. I was working the Contemporary's monorail station listening to these idiots bragging about what they'd bought downstairs at the convention and thought, "you traveled all this way, spent all that money, to buy what again?"

On the station platform, at the time, were evenly spaced "street lamps" and each had a circular decoration advertising the Disneyana Convention. One guest in line told me about his plan to "sneak onto the monorail platform tonight and steal them."

They were held on with zip ties. I took my Swiss Army knife out of my pocket and started cutting zip ties (it was late at night, no managers were likely to come by and see me doing it, and they were going to take them down the next day anyway.)

I swear this guy just about jizzed in his pants when I had cut about twelve of them off of their posts and started walking back toward him. Then I kept right on going, went over to the console where my backpack was stored, and put them inside of it. A train pulled in and I opened the gates and let the guests get aboard while smiling at him. I thought his head was going to explode, his face was so fucking red.

No soup for you!
Fuck that's right, your the monorail dude from the old place! That thread was fascinating :beer:
 
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