Levigarrett76
Zeus of the Sluice
Almost as ugly as the new chevy trucks
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Cybertruck: no thread here.
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00nissanguy
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smurfblue40
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arse_sidewards
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Tire companies make far more money off of consumers preference for performance over longevity and consumer's preference for comfortable riding car tires on 5k+ SUVs than they do off anything specifically having to do with EVs.
You can tell it's just bullshit because they're comparing battery weight to fuel tank weight and acting like regenerative braking wears tires more, as if a car with normal brakes wouldn't apply the same forces. Fuck, the fact that they don't even talk about hardness/longevity vs traction tradeoffs should be a massive red flat that this is bullshit.
If EVs were gonna result in a substantive change to the tire industry you wouldn't be hearing about it first from NBC. The auto journalists would have been talking about it a decade ago.
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Sandy Johnson
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I really want to drive one off road and see if they are really that terrible, or if people suck at turning off the nannies, or if the people driving them just suck at driving in the dirt. Seems like they should kick ass with all that electric motor torque and something like a traction control is holding them back.
Probably shitty tires and shitty driver. IIRC, the software for the lockers was not out early on.
I'm not sure I would go into deep water surrounded by many hundreds of lbs of batteries.
Sandy Johnson
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6,603 lbs for regular cybertruck, 6,843 lbs for 3 motor cyberbeast version. Porky, but not any more than a big old super duty. I dunno, I think they should do a lot better than what you see in most vids.
Also that cybertruck on different tires and wheels I posted is a the husband of one of my wife's friends. He works at tesla on the UI or something like that, but also is a bit of a gearhead. He's got some cool ICE 4x4s that he's built, and is already trying to decide if he wants to start trimming fenders on his cybertruck to fit 37s. I've been egging him on as hard as I can to do it. I think his main concern is if he'll get in trouble at work for hacking one up.
I'm also working on getting him to let me drive it at the local 4x4 park, but our schedules haven't aligned.
they weigh 7,000 pounds, look to have no suspension travel, and a really shitty departure angle in the rear.
who would ever think they were great for offroad? if they have all that power at each wheel, its basically too much power by turning off the traction control.
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How do the "lockers" work?
I think only the tri-motor option is available. Single motor up front. 2 in the back. A front side to side mechanical locker is probably possible. Is it a feature?
Front to Rear would be electronic motor speed synchonization.
Rear side to side. Is it locked mechanical in any way or electronic motor control only?
heres a newflash: Big old super dutys get stuck everywhere.
Sandy Johnson
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Every video I see of them failing isn't them getting hung up on the front or rear or high centered. Most don't vids (other than an especially embarrassing RTI ramp video) don't have a wheel off the ground. All the vids just seem to have poor traction and really low wheel speed when they could use a little more beans.
bah. I've seen some pretty impressive things happen with big ol super duty's before. This was my buddy's truck back in the day and he used to wheel the piss out of that thing to the point that it offended a lot of jeep bros for stuffing something so large on a trail so small:
Every video I see of them failing isn't them getting hung up on the front or rear or high centered. Most don't vids (other than an especially embarrassing RTI ramp video) don't have a wheel off the ground. All the vids just seem to have poor traction and really low wheel speed when they could use a little more beans.
bah. I've seen some pretty impressive things happen with big ol super duty's before. This was my buddy's truck back in the day and he used to wheel the piss out of that thing to the point that it offended a lot of jeep bros for stuffing something so large on a trail so small:
so leaf springs in the front and about 2 feet more ground clearance than a cybertruck?
now we are seeing the real issues with the cybertruck.
Sandy Johnson
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Its seems as though you skipped over the first thing I said and went straight to the tiny picture of the awesome superduty. I dont blame you, I would too. It's got aftermarket suspension and tires to give it more ground clearance and suspension travel. I'm sure at some point someone will figure out how to do the same on the cybertruck as well, so approach/departure angles and clearance aren't really my focus when I look at these sucking on hill climbs, sand, snow, etc. It doesn't really seem to be the hang-up in those videos anyway. What does appear to be the hang-up is lack of traction and a lack of power. I'm wondering if clicking some buttons or perhaps hitting it with their purse would have got a little better performance out of these things, because it looks like something is holding them back.
Not a cybertruck fan by any means, but I'm always interested in seeing how much I can flog a stock vehicle offroad.
This video is interesting as far as the breakage and modifications and parts fabrication done so far
That's my goal with most vehicles in life
Sandy Johnson
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There was a time way back when that I had some friends who worked for Enterprise. All manner of stock vehicle was tested in pismo. I was most impressed with what a stock liberty could do with 8psi in the tires, but a crew cab long bed super duty was close second.
2big bronco
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Was that his parked out back last night? Looks good with those wheels/tires and sitting at the jacked up ride height.
Sandy Johnson
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It was. I really want him to trim the fenders and see if 37s will fit
2big bronco
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What lug pattern is it? Maybe we need to find some to "test fit"
Sandy Johnson
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Ooh, good idea. Dunno. I'll have to ask next time
2big bronco
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Sandy Johnson
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well now...
Conveniently the same as my bronco if it will clear 17s
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Idiots who think "off road" only means clean dry rocks on a trail big enough for a school bus.
arse_sidewards
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Small AWD shitboxes are amazing if they can put that power to the ground.
Sandy Johnson
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Conversely, there are other types of "off road" other than tight greasy rocks weaving between trees. These things should at least be able to put the power down on wide open hill climbs or climbing out of a muddy stream like the one in the video earlier in the thread. It puzzles me that they seem to struggle in simple environments like that.
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I think it'd do well in the dunes because horsetorks
Sandy Johnson
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Same, but in all the videos I see where horse storks should be applied liberally, there does not appear to be very may horse storks flapping and then failure. I'm wondering if there's a way to turn that nonsense off and give her all the gigawatts or if it's like a throttle mapping/speed control programming issue and it's just lame.