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CarterKraft

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This is another poorly narrated thread where I will share some gate projects I have built for one of my customers.

I'll have to locate the pic of the first one, they aren't where I thought they where...

This is the second one.
30' opening, 36' overall length 12' tall in the center, 10 ish feet at the posts.
3"x3" 11 ga tubing with my custom designed rear mounted guide rollers.

I don't have the equipment to roll this size of tube (40' long .125" wall) so it was farmed out for a great price i thought. Tube and all was $275.
I did a full site plan including concrete footings and elevation that my customer (best friend) promptly ignored.
He poured the driveway sloped but the column tops level and to add insult to injury they crowned the driveway between the columns 1.5" in the center. That made one column footer 9" lower than the other and the entire track for the gate to slide on at this slope.

So the project was sort of fucked before it got going because nothing was going to be perpendicular with out some really goofy roller pedestals or something.
I changed the CAD model several times to compensate and did some visual testing on groups of drunk people at his house.

With the model agreed on I got to building.
The vertical members are tilted 1.2* to compensate and the ends of the arch split between the 9" difference to attempt to blend in.

Edit: I had planned on passing the time at the hospital by making these posts but I can't find any of the pix remotely, I think they are all in my NAS I can't get into from here...
Cue the 🤡 music

Here's some teasers for your hard work.
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Pretty smart way to move a huge gate.:smokin: I don't think I would have ever thought of doing that.


Hospital, what's up?



Edit: Dibs on your stuff! :flipoff2:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Pretty smart way to move a huge gate.:smokin: I don't think I would have ever thought of doing that.


Hospital, what's up?



Edit: Dibs on your stuff! :flipoff2:
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The gate trailer was a pretty wild idea, we even hauled it over there twice. 47 miles round trip... The teaser pick is from the first test fit and the trailer pick is from the final trip.

It would take a decent size gooseneck to haul it and then it would be at a pretty decent width/angle to not be too tall so trailer gate it was. I had all the parts to do it without buying anything so an easy choice.
 
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CarterKraft said:
The gate trailer was a pretty wild idea, we even hauled it over there twice. 47 miles round trip... The teaser pick is from the first test fit and the trailer pick is from the final trip.

It would take a decent size gooseneck to haul it and then it would be at a pretty decent width/angle to not be too tall so trailer gate it was. I had all the parts to do it without buying anything so an easy choice.
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I may steal that idea to move something someday just because its freakin awesome. :laughing:
 
I am having trouble locating all my pix from 2014-2017...So artsy fartsy IG picture will have to work....
This is in/in front of my 40' wide 30' deep14' tall shop.
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That gets us to this stage. I had already towed it to the site and test fit it in the opening to verify I hadn't wasted a bunch of time/material with all the screwy angles and out of squareness.
The back guide rail is on, it's made of the same 3" 11 ga tubing.
The lower insert cross broke panels are installed and the "picture framing around the panels is all welded.
The 6" v wheel buckets installed in the bottom tube and the center medallion installed in the arch.
Pulling it around the yard with my sons '65 F100


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This was during lockdowns so we got to work on the "welding" part of home school :lmao:
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I cut rings for the center medallion out of .125" plate.
I had plans to get all this plasma cut but that didn't pan out so I made a compass and used my plasma cutter to knock them out, it actually came out really good. I left a .125" gap around the corner so I good get a good fillet weld to grind back and radius to simulate the look of tubing.
I rolled the 3"x.125" strap on my HF tubing roller. I just used my 1.5" square tube and layed the strap on the flat dies, it worked perfectly with no twisting etc.

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It was ready to go and we started planning the trip over to the site.
All along I told the customer I won't be responsible for the hauling, I will help but my truck won't be doing the towing.
Here is the route.
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One of the important details of this gate is there are no guide rail hardware visible from the entrance. No guide roller "tracking/marking" on the entrance face. It's common for fence companies to put almost zero thought in to these details and it looks like shit aesthetically and doesn't age well.
You end up with this band of paint wear down the face of the gate and no way to prevent it.

I designed this gate to have a rear mounted guide rail that would provide the correct support for the gate with solid infill up to 9' tall which will catch some serious wind. I designed the roller truck assembly several times in CAD but I was struggling with getting the elevation of these trucks, the height of the guide rail once the gate was installed on the crooked ass concrete foundation and the installed height of the "catch post" to the footing that was also poured on a slope.

I finally made peace with I was probably not going to nail this part of the construction first try. I just needed to get sort of close and let the 7018 fix the rest.

So I started building the trucks.
I always wanted some kick ass wheels with good bearings. I was working on a Large Square hay bailer one day and it had some really kick ass urethane rollers that were perfect, also very expensive. I kept looking for some rollers from industry that are readily available. Ebay led me to pallet jack rollers. They are hell for stout, the right color urethane and have good sealed bearings, also reasonably priced.
I got the rollers which take 20mm shaft. I got some 20 mm hardened and ground shaft from Amazon and it was complete, now I just need to build them.

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So this is what we end up with. A guide rail system with double adjustable trucks for the inside and inside roller. I didn't do any tests of strengths but these should be many times stronger than the industry standard sheet metal bracket and rubber roller with no bearings.



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Here are some pix of the catch post and guide rail trucks.
The H post is 6"x6" 1/4" wall tubing with 3/4" base plates and 3/4" epoxied anchor bolts.
Because the concrete guy and my buddy ignored the concrete plan we hit rebar in half the holes...
You can see the angle of the guide rail that is showing how bad the concrete is sloped.

I built those giant doors on the shop too, so they will be in here at some point.

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I like HySecurity openers and honestly I think they might be the only access company with the hardware to open close a 3000 lb gate on a sloped track so the HD30 was chosen. It's a 1 hp DC drive with built in batteries so backup power isn't an issue.
This is a rear mounted opener due to visual and space issues, that requires a tail wheel mounted at the front of the gate and about twice as much chain as a conventional mounted opener.
hysecurity.com

SlideSmart HD Slide Gate Operator

Designed for heavy usage and large gates, SlideSmart HD delivers by using a post mountable steel chassis that rides above accumulating snow and prevents pests from nesting inside.
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My buddy has some interesting tastes... So he wanted some giant handles to help better sell the idea these are two swing gates.

Some 1" twisted bar and 1/4" plates cut to shape gets us the right look.
These got powder coated gloss black to match the gate.
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rockyota83 said:
awesome thanks for sharing :beer:

how was the gate prepped and painted?
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This project took 4 ish years from start to finish and it had been outside the entire time so it had a nice coating of surface rust as you can see.

We originally planned on powder coating it but the ovens in the area weren't big enough and the one that was possibly big enough was too far for our redneck trailer arrangement to get to.

So Rust-Oleum it was.
We used oshpho on it after a thorough pressure washing. That converted that consistent surface rust to a paintable primer. We then used some "china dry" in the paint and brushed/rolled it on.

It's not a powder coat finish by any means but it is a good enough finish for a gate.

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It's hard to photograph because it faces perfectly due North.
 
CarterKraft said:
This project took 4 ish years from start to finish and it had been outside the entire time so it had a nice coating of surface rust as you can see.

We originally planned on powder coating it but the ovens in the area weren't big enough and the one that was possibly big enough was too far for our redneck trailer arrangement to get to.

So Rust-Oleum it was.
We used oshpho on it after a thorough pressure washing. That converted that consistent surface rust to a paintable primer. We then used some "china dry" in the paint and brushed/rolled it on.

It's not a powder coat finish by any means but it is a good enough finish for a gate.
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thats exactly what i wanted to hear :grinpimp: i have a dump bed/lumber rack thats a few years old and was planning to do what you just described and was curious what to try, thanks for the info :beer: off to get some oshpho
 
Close up of the front and rear logos. Both LED backlit via onboard solar/battery lights.
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The entrance keypad bollard with fire access switch, Ring camera and access keypad.
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and the Exit keypad
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CarterKraft said:
And this is what happens when you forget the safety beams are not hooked up and you pull in as the gate is closing at 1.25' per second. :homer::lmao:
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We had a rolling gate at a self storage place, somehow it started closing on a car. The dumbass decided to wait until it hit the car then floored it so it fucked up the entire side instead of a small dent. Or they could have just gone when they saw it closing. It also bent the gate sideways damaging a bunch of gate parts. The stupidity of the customers was unlimited.
 
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