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California SB210 Compliance

Provience said:
I do think it would have cleaned up automotive wise regardless of carb.
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It would have. I do think CARB made it happen quicker than it otherwise would have happened.

CARB is a huge revenue generator now. Look at the amount of fines some of these companies have paid them.:mad3:
 
Provience said:
Bull shit.

Any efi engine is cleaner than any smog retarded 70/80s engine
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As usual you missed the point. The car makers wouldn't have improved the cars without the government kicking them in the ass.
I listened to all the incredible whining from them at the time. The goal was to clean up the smog, which was very much needed.
What it evolved into was the moronic beaucracy with unrealistic rules and self perpetuating bullshit.
 
SanDiegoCJ said:
As usual you missed the point. The car makers wouldn't have improved the cars without the government kicking them in the ass.
I listened to all the incredible whining from them at the time. The goal was to clean up the smog, which was very much needed.
What it evolved into was the moronic beaucracy with unrealistic rules and self perpetuating bullshit.
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As usual, bullshit.

Yeah, car makers would've detuned their shit without the government. We'd all have been better off.

"Evolved into" rather than bring the obvious only situation. :shaking: what the fuck else would it have possibly been?
 
shortbus4x4 said:
And this is why rust belt cities air cleaned up relatively quickly compared to CA.
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Surely it has nothing to do with the prevailing local winds/climate. :shaking:

Quit making excuses for shit because you were dumb enough to not hate it at the time.
 
Provience said:
As usual, bullshit.

Yeah, car makers would've detuned their shit without the government. We'd all have been better off.

"Evolved into" rather than bring the obvious only situation. :shaking: what the fuck else would it have possibly been?
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I can see you're living in a fantasy.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Surely it has nothing to do with the prevailing local winds/climate. :shaking:

Quit making excuses for shit because you were dumb enough to not hate it at the time.
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No, older cars have more pollution than fuel injected cars. Rust belt cars rusted away and were replaced with fuel injected cars which cleaned the air up. And again CA didn't make any other states follow their rules, that was the Feds and other states that made that choice.

And I can tell you were never around in a high population area back in the 1960s when there were no rules at all about air pollution.
 
shortbus4x4 said:
No, older cars have more pollution than fuel injected cars. Rust belt cars rusted away and were replaced with fuel injected cars which cleaned the air up. And again CA didn't make any other states follow their rules, that was the Feds and other states that made that choice.

And I can tell you were never around in a high population area back in the 1960s when there were no rules at all about air pollution.
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I've given up trying to get ass-boy to accept facts, his personal delusions matter more to him.
 
Arickvan said:
huh i thought they weren't allowing any MDT HDT trucks older than 2010 to register?
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Personal use is different.

Not for hire stickers. yada yada yada bull shit rules you have to follow.
 
MuntCuffin said:
Seems like you could make a pretty penny setting up trailer yards in Arizona, Nevada, and maybe Oregon, to have shit dropped from non compliance trucks and have compliant trucks take it into cali.

Wonder of friends of the governor are doing just that.
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Some doughboys from Panera
 
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I was just subjected to the process. No notice with registration, took my money, denied my tags. Filed for "exemption" they can't sort their shit out. Carb gave exemption, (I filed historical, over 25 years old, it's a 97).

The exemption is supposed to keep you from having to repower (yes, modern engine and emissions, new, not used, certified install) in the next 5 years. RVs that are documented habitable can file for exemption, but have to file yearly.

I somehow didn't get slapped with the f30 dollar fee, but I've called the DMV 5 times, lost a month's worth of Registration (due mid August) and they just today released the tags after yet another call, because CARBs system doesn't communicate with DMV properly.

It's a shitshow. In the next 5-10 years I can bet a paycheck exemption will come off the table and a repower or invalid registration is coming.

This bus has 19,200 miles on it. Sat for most of its life. I resurrected it as an awesome family adventure mobile and they're fucking everyone like me with more hurdles year after year.

It really is a straight money grab, and there I guys I know that are in the same boat, can't seem to get their tags.

It gets worse though..... 2010 and newer cannot file exempt :eek: They will be subjected to repower requirements in the next couple years if they want to keep their RV.

I spoke directly to a guy at CARB and that's what he told me.
 
1Sinner said:
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I was just subjected to the process. No notice with registration, took my money, denied my tags. Filed for "exemption" they can't sort their shit out. Carb gave exemption, (I filed historical, over 25 years old, it's a 97).

The exemption is supposed to keep you from having to repower (yes, modern engine and emissions, new, not used, certified install) in the next 5 years. RVs that are documented habitable can file for exemption, but have to file yearly.

I somehow didn't get slapped with the f30 dollar fee, but I've called the DMV 5 times, lost a month's worth of Registration (due mid August) and they just today released the tags after yet another call, because CARBs system doesn't communicate with DMV properly.

It's a shitshow. In the next 5-10 years I can bet a paycheck exemption will come off the table and a repower or invalid registration is coming.

This bus has 19,200 miles on it. Sat for most of its life. I resurrected it as an awesome family adventure mobile and they're fucking everyone like me with more hurdles year after year.

It really is a straight money grab, and there I guys I know that are in the same boat, can't seem to get their tags.

It gets worse though..... 2010 and newer cannot file exempt :eek: They will be subjected to repower requirements in the next couple years if they want to keep their RV.

I spoke directly to a guy at CARB and that's what he told me.
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Just one more reason we're SO FUCKING HAPPY we bailed out of California. FUCK that abortion of a state. :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:
 
The bullshit repowering of reefer units sure was a giant windfall to the state when they required everything to be 7 years old at the max to be in the state in about 2010. Every trailer shop I passed had stacks and stacks of reefer units stacked up everywhere. That states legislature fucks every productive citizen at every possible turn and you fuckers just take it.
 
DWT said:
The bullshit repowering of reefer units sure was a giant windfall to the state when they required everything to be 7 years old at the max to be in the state in about 2010. Every trailer shop I passed had stacks and stacks of reefer units stacked up everywhere. That states legislature fucks every productive citizen at every possible turn and you fuckers just take it.
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Definitely don't take it. I vote, and write my congressmen, but I don't get anywhere. Trying the ballot box. Until leadership in this country drives us into a civil conflict when everyone has had enough.
 
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California commie pinko Compliance​


Glad I moved out of the Rip Off $$, money stealing, communist state years ago .
Its a damn shame what that state has turned into. And all the liberal easterners that moved there and all the illegals they let invade the place
 
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