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Norm said:
The media and the left are the ones pushing a civil war, antifa is protected class in Democrat controlled cities. Sooner or later it’s going to boil over when the Democrats no longer respect the laws we all agree to live by, which is pretty much right now. Either we a agree to live by a set of rules and standards or we don’t and things will get ugly.
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We don't agree on the rules. The Left is literally saying that Riots and Looting are justified. I'm not exaggerating.

I figure the Trump camp is sitting it out so that they can be the only possible solution that isn't straight-up Communism at this point, which makes me hate Trump a little bit more, and especially his boy Kuschner. What the fuck is Kuschner anyway? He's Trump's oversight, his bad-judgement call. Kid should have been fired long ago.
 
Norm said:
The media and the left are the ones pushing a civil war, antifa is protected class in Democrat controlled cities. Sooner or later it’s going to boil over when the Democrats no longer respect the laws we all agree to live by, which is pretty much right now. Either we a agree to live by a set of rules and standards or we don’t and things will get ugly.
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Never have I ever heard any of my left buddies, or right-leaning buddies for that matter, talk about a civil war, because they're not going for points on the internet for typing over-the-top shit to get a reaction. It sucks because people do it for attention/acceptance online, and then some crazies read it like these guys and actually try to act on it. Now we've got this bullshit cycle where the news has to find a reason why a crazy-ass person did a crazy-ass thing because most of their viewers see crap like that, get scared, and then want to know how they can be safe again and so "we must find a reason! The news must tell us why!"

Anyway, I live in a democrat controlled county in a democrat controlled state. Antifa isn't protected here. Shoot, even in Berkley(the most liberal of the liberal cities in CA), members of "antifa" got arrested last time they tried trashing things during a peaceful protest.

Lastly- there's no organized antifa, just like there's no organized "boogaloo movement". It's just a name some assholes throw out there to justify doing violent and/or damaging things. Hyping any of this up either way just feeds the imagination of all the crazies and back around goes the cycle. :rolleyes:
 
WASHINGTON, D.C. – An intelligence assessment recently warned that an extremist movement known as “Boogaloo” may be setting its sights on the nation’s capital.

According to Politico, the National Capital Region Threat Intelligence Consortium, a fusion center for Washington, D.C. that provides support to federal national security and law enforcement agencies, warned in a June 15 intelligence report said:

“The District is likely an attractive target for violent adherents of the Boogaloo ideology due to the significant presence of US law enforcement entities, and the wide range of First Amendment-Protected events hosted here.”

According to International Business Times, a June 19 bulletin from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, also obtained by Politico, indicated:

“Domestic terrorists advocating for the Boogaloo very likely will take advantage of any regional or national situation involving heightened fear and tensions to promote their violent extremist ideology and call supporters to action.”

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security criticized Politico’s article in a tweet for identifying the Boogaloo movement as a far-right group only:


“Another work of fiction by @politico. The @DHSgov intel bulletin does NOT identify the Boogaloo movement as left-wing OR right-wing. They are simply violent extremists from both ends of the ideological spectrum.”

The Boogaloo movement is a loosely organized group that consists of two main factions: one connected to neo-Nazis and the other to radical libertarians. Together, their shared objective is overthrowing the government and sparking societal collapse.

According to a paper written by Alex Newhouse and Nate Gunesch of Middlebury Institute’s Center on Terrorism, Extremism, and Counterterrorism (CTEC):

“The Boogaloo (also known as the Big Luau, the Big Igloo, or the Bungalow) is seen as the breaking point where government oppression is finally met with revolutionary violence from armed citizens.”

Newhouse, digital research lead at CTEC, said:

“It is very difficult to know if the ‘Boogaloo boi’ you see standing in the middle of the street at a protest is there in solidarity or to incite violence.”

In an interview with USA Today, Newhouse said the neo-Nazis in the movement want to destroy the government by starting a race war. He also said the radical libertarians in the group, known for carrying weapons and wearing Hawaiian shirts, want to defend the rights of individuals against the government and have been known to incite violence against police.

Newhouse noted that the libertarian faction has been spotted at Black Lives Matter protests, waving anti-police signs alongside protesters.


JJ MacNab, a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism, told USA Today there are some Black and Hispanic members. She also indicated the unclear relationship between members of Boogaloo:

“The Boogaloo bois’ relationship to Antifa – left-leaning, anti-racist groups that monitor and track the activities of neo-Nazis – is murkier. The libertarian side of the movement is split between members who see Antifa as communists, whom they want to dissociate from, and members who see them as ‘brothers-in-arms.’”

The term Boogaloo seems to have originated from the 1984 film “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo.” The movie portrays breakdancing teens who try to save their local community center from corrupt politicians and a developer.

The film’s director, Sam Firstenberg, was shocked when he read in a newspaper how a domestic, anti-U.S. government extremist movement had named itself after one of his movies.

Firstenberg said:


“It’s almost bizarre — a surrealistic situation. From a movie like this about dancing children and neighborhood unity — something like this has evolved.”

On June 3, federal authorities arrested three men, allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas.

Law Enforcement Today has reported on several police encounters with Boogaloo, including a few that have turned deadly.

OAKLAND, CA – Steven Carrillo, who is responsible for the death of Deputy Damon Gutzwiller in Santa Cruz, was also charged with the shooting murder of federal officer David Patrick Underwood.

Carrillo was an Air Force sergeant stationed at Travis Air Force base in Fairfield and was said to have traveled to Oakland with the intent of killing police.

It’s been reported that Carrillo has ties to the “boogaloo bois,” an anti-government group that is known to carry rifles.


A ballistic vest worn by Carrillo during the ambush of Santa Cruz area police had a “Boogaloo” patch on it.

BBC News reported:

“He appears to have used his own blood to write various phrases on the bonnet of a car he stole, the FBI said, including ‘boog’ and ‘stop the duopoly.’


“‘Boogaloo’ is a term used by extremists to reference a violent uprising or impending civil war in the US, the FBI said.”

The FBI reported that Robert Alvin Justus has confessed to driving the white van that was seen in the drive-by shooting of Underwood.

The local ABC affiliate reported:

“The complaint says, after 17 minutes, the van pulled into the intersection and that 32-year-old Steven Carrillo, an active duty Air Force police officer from Travis Air Force Base, slid the back door open and fired what’s called a ‘ghost gun,’ parts purchased separately and assembled from scratch.”




Pat Gorman, ATF Special Agent in Charge, said:

“The firearm used in these crimes was a privately made firearm, with no markings or serial number. This firearm is a machine gun, which had a silencer attached to its barrel.”

It was discovered that the same gun used to kill Underwood was also used to kill Gutzwiller in an ambush.


Carrillo and Justus apparently met on Facebook and planned on using the Black Lives Matter riots as cover for their nefarious activity.

Carrillo allegedly said in a message to Justus:




“Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage.”

The FBI reportedly had set up surveillance on Justus, and they watched on camera as his parents drove him to the FBI office in San Francisco on Thursday to turn him in.

Here’s the previous article from Law Enforcement Today on Steven Carrillo.

Law Enforcement Today has been reporting on Steven Carrillo, the suspect who murdered Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s Sergeant Damon Gutzwiller, as the case unfolds.

Carrillo, as we’ve reported, was an active Air Force sergeant and leader in an elite military security force based out of Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield. We’d also reported that authorities believe Carrillo may also be responsible for the murder of federal officer Patrick Underwood in nearby Oakland.

In a news conference following the ambush on his deputies, Sheriff Jim Hart said:

“He was very intent on killing these police officers. They had no idea that they were about to get into this firefight.”

We now have some new information in the Ben Lomond incident that left Sergeant Gutzwiller dead and another deputy and a CHP officer injured.

The second deputy, who has not been identified, was shot in the chest. His bulletproof vest is credited with saving his life. That deputy was also hit with shrapnel from the homemade explosive devices Carrillo set off, and he was also struck by Carrillo’s getaway vehicle.

Sheriff Hart described how Carrillo came to be taken into custody after ambushing the officers.

Apparently Carrillo was attempting to carjack a man for another vehicle, and the potential victim stopped him.

KCRA3 reported:

“The man saw Carrillo in his backyard and confronted him. Carrillo, armed with the AR-15, demanded the man’s car keys. The man retrieved the keys, gave them to Carrillo and when Carrillo turned away the man tackled him and the rifle fell away from him.

“As they struggled, Carrillo pulled a pipe bomb from his pants and tried unsuccessfully to light it. He then pulled out a pistol and the man was able to knock it out of his hands and then subdue him as neighbors came to help.”

Sheriff Hart said:

“This guy could have done a lot more damage in our community.”
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https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...IVFmLCNRfrF80Q
 
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Actually just spoke to this guy. He told me he is not supportive of the Boogaloo, but described seeing multiple people who were in recent weeks. https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1...388032?s=21…
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this is what they what, not enough facists, put the new enemy out there :shaking:
 
I'll go ahead and quote evernoob here "the left gives their terrorist cushy jobs for life, the right executes them"

I am not implying that anybody claiming "boogaloo" is republican, but this is why I didn't support adding Antifa to a known terrorist list

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ag-barr-task-force-counter-anti-government-extremists

n a memo released on Friday, Attorney General Bill Barr announced the formation of a Justice Department task force to combat anti-government extremist groups, such as Antifa and those who support the "Boogaloo" movement.





The document cites "significant threats to the rule of law," and "indefensible acts of violence" as the rationale behind the formation of the group.

"Amid peaceful demonstrations protected by the First Amendment, we have seen antigovernment extremists engaged in indefensible acts of violence designed to undermine public order," Barr wrote. "Among other lawless conduct, these extremists have violently attacked police officers and other government officials, destroyed public and private property, and threatened innocent people."

He added, "Some pretend to profess a message of freedom and progress, but they are in fact forces of anarchy, destruction, and coercion."

Barr claimed some of the anti-government extremist groups may be receiving funding from foreign entities, which are looking to sow seeds of chaos within the United States.

"We have evidence that anti-government violent extremists — including those who support the 'Boogaloo,' those who self-identify as Antifa, and others— will pose continuing threats of lawlessness," he explained. "Some of these violent extremists, moreover, may be fortified by foreign entities seeking to sow chaos and disorder in our country. The Department of Justice will respond to these violent groups in the same way we respond to other organized criminal or terrorist networks — by disrupting their violent activities and ultimately dismantling their capability to threaten the rule of law."
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Provience said:
I'll go ahead and quote evernoob here "the left gives their terrorist cushy jobs for life, the right executes them"

I am not implying that anybody claiming "boogaloo" is republican, but this is why I didn't support adding Antifa to a known terrorist list

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ag-barr-task-force-counter-anti-government-extremists
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This is because the Left fights their corner, without shame or embarassment.

When Liberal forces want the KKK suppressed, they just go after the KKK. They don't form a task group which includes The Black Panthers.

When a horrible fucking fuck like that fuck Barr or Trump goes after Leftist violence, they ALWAYS include a Rightist movement in there because they are ashamed of themselves. This is because they are invariably weak men who cannot lead.

If you're going after Antifa, go after them the same way JFK went after the Klan.

For fuck's sake Conservatives in this country need to be deposed :shaking:
 
evernoob said:
This is because the Left fights their corner, without shame or embarassment.

When Liberal forces want the KKK suppressed, they just go after the KKK. They don't form a task group which includes The Black Panthers.

When a horrible fucking fuck like that fuck Barr or Trump goes after Leftist violence, they ALWAYS include a Rightist movement in there because they are ashamed of themselves. This is because they are invariably weak men who cannot lead.

If you're going after Antifa, go after them the same way JFK went after the Klan.

For fuck's sake Conservatives in this country need to be deposed :shaking:
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the left is the KKK, they don't go after those people. Obama spoke at that klan dudes funeral

ronny Reagan pushed gun control in CA through on the backs of the black panthers (sure, he had been an R for just a handful of years at that point, still a democrat) and much of that served as the basis for democrat gun control nationally.

pretty sure LBJ was still in charge of the FBI when they killed fred Thompson to break the blank panthers and (allegedly) when the fed killed Malcom X to end black nationalists.
 



yeah yeah, this is what i get for finally clicking on youtube links :homer:

why is this in this thread? It kind of relates. the chick is a reformed social justice warrior cult member and still a liberal, but a much more classic liberal. this is a long video but it covers dealing with getting people away from the SJW cult and even leads in to why individualism beats the ever loving fuck out of collectivism.

long, all over the place, don't agree with it all, but taken as a whole is interesting and they are self-declaring boogaloo-ites
 
NPR to the rescue!

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/23/89492...iming-boogaloo
Reclaiming Boogaloo


We are in strange times.

Boogaloo was a music developed in the 1960s by Nuyoricans who were listening to American pop music, James Brown, Tito Puente and Machito – young folks bringing together disparate sounds and cultures to make their own. But recently, an informal network of white supremacists and other hate groups have adopted the word "boogaloo" to signify an impending race war or some other form of mass violence.

How did this happen?
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/23/894925386/reclaiming-boogaloo
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https://www.npr.org/2020/07/23/894925386/reclaiming-boogaloo
 
Provience said:
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yeah yeah, this is what i get for finally clicking on youtube links :homer:

why is this in this thread? It kind of relates. the chick is a reformed social justice warrior cult member and still a liberal, but a much more classic liberal. this is a long video but it covers dealing with getting people away from the SJW cult and even leads in to why individualism beats the ever loving fuck out of collectivism.

long, all over the place, don't agree with it all, but taken as a whole is interesting and they are self-declaring boogaloo-ites
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There is no way I'm watching a 2 hour and 42 minute video of a girl talk.
 
Provience said:



yeah yeah, this is what i get for finally clicking on youtube links :homer:

why is this in this thread? It kind of relates. the chick is a reformed social justice warrior cult member and still a liberal, but a much more classic liberal. this is a long video but it covers dealing with getting people away from the SJW cult and even leads in to why individualism beats the ever loving fuck out of collectivism.

long, all over the place, don't agree with it all, but taken as a whole is interesting and they are self-declaring boogaloo-ites
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Listen to Thadeus Russel. Former commie, former friends with people who started Antifa back in the day, turned anarcho libertarian. Fascinating dude and has a story along the same lines as this chick. Just listened to him on the death to tyrants podcast today, interesting dude. Same podcast also has one on the big luau as well.
 
https://www.theroot.com/boogaloo-boy-charged-for-opening-fire-and-helping-set-m-1845467211

Boogaloo Boy Charged for Opening Fire and Helping Set Minneapolis Police Precinct Ablaze During George Floyd Protests

The Star Tribune reports Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Boerne, Texas, allegedly fired an AK-47 at Minneapolis Police’s Third Precinct while yelling “Justice for George Floyd,” according to a federal complaint. The complaint also alleged that Hunter helped loot and set the precinct on fire. Hunter has been charged with one count of interstate travel to incite a riot for his role in sowing chaos during the initial protests surrounding Floyd’s death in late May.

. One of the people Hunter coordinated with posted publicly to social media: “Lock and load boys. Boog flags are in the air, and the national network is going off,” the complaint states.

Two hours after the police precinct was set on fire, Hunter texted with another Boogaloo member in California, a man named Steven Carrillo.

“Go for police buildings,” Hunter told Carrillo, according to charging documents.

“I did better lol,” he replied.
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alright, this is a great WTF article from CNN :lmao:

"Nobody says anything when other demographics pick up weapons, decide to arm themselves and confront the government over anything from wearing a mask to being cooped up in the house, but when certain demographics arm themselves all of a sudden people tend to act as if the Constitution doesn't matter," Johnson said.

There's no moral equivalency when comparing NFAC to White armed groups, Mockaitis said.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/us/nf...oup/index.html

many people say massive things and national guards, states of emergency and all sorts of other shit pops up when "wypipo" walk around in large groups with guns :lmao:

anyways, click the link and read the whole article.

Johnson declined to discuss his life outside NFAC, but records show he served in the Virginia National Guard and the Army from 1989 to 2006. He was a private when he left the military, according to the Army.
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well, now at least we know why he is so bitter against white people and the system
 
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Provience said:
alright, this is a great WTF article from CNN :lmao:



https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/us/nf...oup/index.html

many people say massive things and national guards, states of emergency and all sorts of other shit pops up when "wypipo" walk around in large groups with guns :lmao:

anyways, click the link and read the whole article.



well, now at least we know why he is so bitter against white people and the system
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i thought the boogaloo was when rule of law could not be upheld and people like the 3% took that into there own hands

there making it sound like the boogaloo boys are a movement to get rid of rule of law

:confused:
 
Arickvan said:
i thought the boogaloo was when rule of law could not be upheld and people like the 3% took that into there own hands

there making it sound like the boogaloo boys are a movement to get rid of rule of law

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as far as i'm aware, the boogaloo has always been a joke but to that effect, at the utter failure of the rule of law, armed revolution of the sorts that restores small government and loose order with support for individual liberty.

so of course they are making the movement out as a white supremacy group seeking anarchy and destruction. capturing the narrative is the whole point of this thread and watching how a fairly new (1 or 2 year old) concept gets quickly labeled, painted and derided out of the hands of any sort of leaderless rule-fluid morass.

Last year i was talking about it with my mom and her husband. they'd never heard the term used in any sense outside of the song and movie context. told them to keep an eye out and they would see the demonizing of it take place in the media. it's been entertaining. the other hilarious (tragic) part, is that there is actual death and violence now associated with it but it is not, never has been, a white supremacy movement. the fact that The Root paints the arrest of the one guy while quoting him as "shouting justice for george floyd as he JOINS in burning down the precinct" is comical, even if the joke is lost on the root editors and readers.

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remember this dude? the lone SAS operator that stormed and liberated the hotel in kenya? peak boog :laughing:
 
Texas97 said:
so is the boogaloo thing a bunch of white supremacists in hawiian shirts? or not?

because they claim hes a boogie glue guy and yet hes trying to get revenge for George Floyd? Is that just deep fake cover russo-chinese-iran misinformation double agent of chaos turn it around and then turn it around again type stuff?
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exactly.
 
Provience said:
as far as i'm aware, the boogaloo has always been a joke but to that effect, at the utter failure of the rule of law, armed revolution of the sorts that restores small government and loose order with support for individual liberty.

so of course they are making the movement out as a white supremacy group seeking anarchy and destruction. capturing the narrative is the whole point of this thread and watching how a fairly new (1 or 2 year old) concept gets quickly labeled, painted and derided out of the hands of any sort of leaderless rule-fluid morass.

Last year i was talking about it with my mom and her husband. they'd never heard the term used in any sense outside of the song and movie context. told them to keep an eye out and they would see the demonizing of it take place in the media. it's been entertaining. the other hilarious (tragic) part, is that there is actual death and violence now associated with it but it is not, never has been, a white supremacy movement. the fact that The Root paints the arrest of the one guy while quoting him as "shouting justice for george floyd as he JOINS in burning down the precinct" is comical, even if the joke is lost on the root editors and readers.



remember this dude? the lone SAS operator that stormed and liberated the hotel in kenya? peak boog :laughing:
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Hey quiet down with the boogie talk! Your fbi dude texted me and said he's had a late night and wants to sleep in:flipoff2:
 
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Sounds like a bunch of Charles Manson wanna-bes. :rolleyes:
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not even a little bit. charles manson wanted to sow chaos to ignite a race war, every arrest related to "boogaloo" over the summer has been in active support of the right of people to protest, peacefully generally, not peacefully otherwise.

There are MANY ill-advised libertarians who openly and actively support BLM.

The plot to kidnap the Gov was 1 step away from being labeled as "boogaloo" they just. couldn't. pin. it. down. It was BLM supporting anarchist and other second amendment and limited government supporting individuals, who blinded themselves in similar fashion to the shithead who shot the federal officer and sherrif and the one who helped ignite the police precinct (notice, no mention of arrest of connection to the many others who participated that night. likely, they didn't text with the other guy )
 
RusM said:
Hey quiet down with the boogie talk! Your fbi dude texted me and said he's had a late night and wants to sleep in:flipoff2:
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:lmao:

the FBI has made their official position clear. boogaloo is just a step above antifa, that way they have some "well, we arrested a bunch of boogaloo's, so saying we might look into antifa is valid and we are fair"
 
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