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87manche and the likes how bad are the x drive cars? A 14 535d x drive popped up locally and am thinking about snapping it up. My wife refuses to drive the 335d in the snow but would drive a awd. I would keep the 335d and turn it into my fun car.

Any issues or things that go wrong with the x drive shit?
 
I don't know if it's been changed but the early Xdrive stuff (1st gen X5&Z3) have an issue where the transfer case actuator gear strips. It's a cheap shitty plastic thing and easy to replace but will cause all the ABS, DSC, etc lights to come on, until resolved but other than that they're pretty solid to my knowledge.
 
I don't know if it's been changed but the early Xdrive stuff (1st gen X5&Z3) have an issue where the transfer case actuator gear strips. It's a cheap shitty plastic thing and easy to replace but will cause all the ABS, DSC, etc lights to come on, until resolved but other than that they're pretty solid to my knowledge.

This is actuate for the older E chassis cars. A 14 5 series is going to be F chassis.... Imo, fawk F chassis. The AWD system as asked though, I haven't seen many problems with them yet at work, and they seem to be a decent setup. The electrical and communication bus though? Makes you want to punch babies.
 
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This is actuate for the older E chassis cars. A 14 5 series is going to be F chassis.... Imo, fawk F chassis. The AWD system as asked though, I haven't seen many problems with them yet at work, and they seem to be a decent setup. The electrical and communication bus though? Makes you want to punch babies.

what’s wrong with the f series chassis? I’m a bmw illiterate.
 
My FIL had a 2003 330xi and that thing is rather fun to play with. He has never had any issues with the AWD going out or anything. He does maintain it pretty well though.

I have romped on it while driving some curvy back roads and it hooks up nice.
 
This is actuate for the older E chassis cars. A 14 5 series is going to be F chassis.... Imo, fawk F chassis. The AWD system as asked though, I haven't seen many problems with them yet at work, and they seem to be a decent setup. The electrical and communication bus though? Makes you want to punch babies.

So they use a different T-Case or have they upgraded the actuator?
 
I cant help. The only x car I had was a e30 325ix 4 door 5speed. Damn thing was a tank, it would go anywhere in the snow. Should have kept it.
 
None of the F-series X-drive cars had any notable AWD issues.

Fuck diesel though, unless you're going to delete all the emissions crap.
 
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I don't know if it's been changed but the early Xdrive stuff (1st gen X5&Z3) have an issue where the transfer case actuator gear strips. It's a cheap shitty plastic thing and easy to replace but will cause all the ABS, DSC, etc lights to come on, until resolved but other than that they're pretty solid to my knowledge.

you can buy a metal replacement worm gear on ebay, but I don't think that's an issue with the newer ones.
FWIW mine has 165K miles on it and is fine.
the front driveshafts suck, and are not rebuildable.
DSI will sell you one with 1210 u joints in it for $300 shipped to your door. mine had a dry ass u joint at around 160K.

the half shaft goes through the engine oil pan, which sucks balls because every oil pan leaks.

They are ATC transfer cases, and you can get bearings and shit aftermarket. I don't know about the clutch packs. Dont put anything other than the recommended tcase fluid in that fucker. It's a wet clutch system that engages and disengages the front driveshaft. When you change the fluid you do a calibration and it measures the clutch pack engagement and then acts like new again.

get the vin and hit realoem for the parts diagrams. but basicaly everything in the front subframe is different than a RWD one.
 
None of the F-series X-drive cars had any notable AWD issues.

Fuck diesel though, unless you're going to delete all the emissions crap.

The only reason I’m looking at buying it is it’s a diesel. If I buy it I will delete the emissions shit and put a small tune on it. I have 8,000+ gallons of diesel in the back yard at all times. I take good care of the tanks and the quality of fuel that goes in them.
 
My awd BMW was fine at 180k+. It did need a front driveshaft but if you don’t mind some vibration it will last almost forever. The awd makes stuff like replacing the starter or oil pan into an absolute nightmare.

the wide tires on these cars don’t help it in the snow, even if it is awd.
 
My awd BMW was fine at 180k+. It did need a front driveshaft but if you don’t mind some vibration it will last almost forever. The awd makes stuff like replacing the starter or oil pan into an absolute nightmare.

the wide tires on these cars don’t help it in the snow, even if it is awd.

I'm told if you let the shaft go it will eat the front output bearings.

I didn't like the vibration, so i replaced that bastard. Took like 30 minutes.

and i'm not sure about te diesel, but on the gas cars you do the starter from the top anyway.
oil pan and water pump are the only things really fucked by the xdrive.
 
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I'm told if you let the shaft go it will eat the front output bearings.

I didn't like the vibration, so i replaced that bastard. Took like 30 minutes.

I hated the car so I let it go until it got pretty bad. Then I paid way too much for the shaft.
 
bust my wallet
bring money with
break my windows
beat my wife
black man's whip

I got nothing other than that.
It did need a front driveshaft but if you don’t mind some vibration it will last almost forever.
don't ignore bmw front driveshafts
they have a taste for oil pans, and have enough teeth to get through their thick skin
 
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Next stupid hypothetical question. Say I buy this and I inherited the 335d. Would the 335d drivetrain bolt into a 328i wagon of the same year? A diesel wagon would make a awesome parts getter. I’m just playing then what if game. If done right it could fetch some pretty big money imo.
 
if you come across another at the shop
http://driveshaftspecialist.com/

make a nice shaft with replaceable joints. $350 to my door in like 4 days.
they'll get my money for the rear one soon enough.

Yeah I have a awesome driveshaft guy in town. He would build me one for it with replaceable parts. I have yet to stump him. Came close a few months ago with a driveshaft off a water pump of mine. He could not figure out why the bolt pattern was not symmetric lol.
 
if you come across another at the shop
http://driveshaftspecialist.com/

make a nice shaft with replaceable joints. $350 to my door in like 4 days.
they'll get my money for the rear one soon enough.

Thanks man. I am sure I will need to replace one for someone eventually.

I am considering the purchase of a friends dirt cheap 05 325Ci 5mt car after swearing I would never have another non M Bmw again. But no front shaft on that one.
 
Next stupid hypothetical question. Say I buy this and I inherited the 335d. Would the 335d drivetrain bolt into a 328i wagon of the same year? A diesel wagon would make a awesome parts getter. I’m just playing then what if game. If done right it could fetch some pretty big money imo.

Theoretically...... if you don't want to fuck with programming you could treat it like a re-shell and move all the wiring and ECUs
Bare minimum needed would likely be, engine, box, props, rear differential, engine harness, engine ECU, clocks and body ECU.
 
Next stupid hypothetical question. Say I buy this and I inherited the 335d. Would the 335d drivetrain bolt into a 328i wagon of the same year? A diesel wagon would make a awesome parts getter. I’m just playing then what if game. If done right it could fetch some pretty big money imo.

yes.

wagons are identical underneath the body.
I would come and help with the coding if you really swap one.
 
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Theoretically...... if you don't want to fuck with programming you could treat it like a re-shell and move all the wiring and ECUs
Bare minimum needed would likely be, engine, box, props, rear differential, engine harness, engine ECU, clocks and body ECU.

you only need to swap the powertrain modules. the rest can be done with coding.
there's a few specific e91 functions that are different than the sedans because split tail gate and shit.
comfort access shit is different as well.

but nothing that's insurmountable. We change some vins and do some coding, bam, works like factory. The anti theft shit is the problem, but you avoid that by swapping the CAS and DME as a set so they can all agree that it's not stolen.
 
Then could I put the gas stuff back into the 335d chassis and still have two good cars?

well shit, I may as well bring a 335 and my car and we'll swap all of them if you're this ambitious.

but technically yes?
There's gonna be some wiring harness changes i'm sure for the engine bay, but the chassis shit is all the same between all the models.
There's a 2013 e92 radio in my 2008 e91.
because my CCC unit was failing and I was like, why the fuck am I gonna repair this shit when i can drop in a newer unit with a SSD upgrade that doesn't suck for less money using ebay purchased parts?


it's a shame BMW AG killed newtis. it was real handy for looking at connector pinouts and wiring diagrams and shit.
you'll need to install stolen ISTA now to get that shit if you don't wanna pay BMW for actual TIS.
 
you only need to swap the powertrain modules. the rest can be done with coding.
there's a few specific e91 functions that are different than the sedans because split tail gate and shit.
comfort access shit is different as well.

but nothing that's insurmountable. We change some vins and do some coding, bam, works like factory. The anti theft shit is the problem, but you avoid that by swapping the CAS and DME as a set so they can all agree that it's not stolen.

Red line on the clocks would be different, but the fact you can do the coding is handy as shit :smokin:
 
Red line on the clocks would be different, but the fact you can do the coding is handy as shit :smokin:

changing the faces in the kombi isn't a hard thing to do.

but no reason hy we couldn't just swap the whole cluster. The only downside to all of that is it's pretty much impossible to change the mileage in a DME to reflect the new chassis mileage.

$50 from venoxy gets you whatever you like in a BMW cluster.

dumb stock 328 gauges.
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shit's custom.
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if you buy a parts cluster you can steal the cruise control indicator wheel and use it to make a variable redline tach like an M car.

maybe i've soldered new parts in a BMW cluster already.

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Is the engine harness really that removed from the chassis harness?

I know VW integrates that shit something terrible
when you do a swap on those you basically gotta stack harnesses, so there's really no hope of getting two runners out of the deal

Way interested in seeing a wagon swap thread.
 
I've got a 99 5 series wagon with an i6 and 5 speed I'd let go of. I've driven it exactly 3 times in almost a year. You want to ruin it with a diesel go for it
 
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;n246759]Is the engine harness really that removed from the chassis harness?

I know VW integrates that shit something terrible
when you do a swap on those you basically gotta stack harnesses, so there's really no hope of getting two runners out of the deal

Way interested in seeing a wagon swap thread.

Hopefully I can go look at the 535d this weekend. A local doctor owns it.

A diesel wagon would be super sweet. I would definitely have to hire 87manche to come and get the programming right. I’m a use a crescent wrench as a hammer type guy.
 
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