gt1guy 07-20-2017 02:51 PM
Blue jeep build
I guess it’s time to start a build thread, since I went and tore the Jeep apart. I’ve been collecting parts for this build for the past few years, so I probably have
at least 80% of what I need to complete it. The big ticket items I have and should keep me busy for a while. The rest is mostly stuff I need to get the build rolling along to figure out. Drive shaft lengths, axle lengths, brake lines, fuel lines, exhaust, etc.
I’ve also never named a vehicle, hell, my old dogs name was Dog, so we’ll just call it the blue jeep build.
Anyway, the plan, here’s what I want to do. Starting with a 2010 JKU Sport with 26k on the clock.
LS conversion with a LS3/525 – , RPM Extreme kit
6l90 w/2800 stall converter, Winters shifter (hits all 7 detents in the trans), Twist Machine paddle shifter
Hero 3 speed transfer case 2.78/4.33 , VSS in tail shaft housing
Rear axle-72.875” wms/wms, JRat 3rd , RuffStuff housing, 40spline ARB, D70 5.13 gears, Solid 40 spline spindles and hubs, 13”Wilwood rotors/ Aero6 calipers,
coilover/bypass mts.
Front axle- 73.25”wms/wms. JRat 3rd , RuffStuff housing, 40spline ARB, D70 5.13 gears, Crane C’s and knuckles, Solid 40spline spindles and hubs, 14”
Wilwood rotors/Aero6 calipers, coilover/bypass mts
Trail Ready HD17RC wheels and 45x14.50TSL/SXII’s
Hydroboost w/1 5/16th master cylinder
Howe Full hydro steering
32gal Fuel Safe cell sunk down into floor behind axle
Full cage, through dash, incorporating the seat mounts and upper mounts for the CO/bypass F&R
PRP- Podium Elite seats, 42” matching Bench seat, Schroth Harnesses
F&R double triangulated 4-links (rear is easy, front is going to take some work……………a lot of work), minimum 6” up travel (I want more if I can move enough
stuff around), ~3.5” lift
Other misc stuff to include:
Line lock for the parking brake.
No wheel speed sensors, will use a Dakota Digital signal conditioner off the rear output VSS of the transfer case to feed the speedo signal.
ABS shit removed. I believe the brain box has to stay but the pump and all the extra lines can go.
EVAP shit removed.
Cruise control will be done through a remote mounted Rostra switch, due to the clock spring issue with full hydro steering.
I ended up tearing the Jeep apart because of how far I had to dig trying to figure out the front suspension. That doesn’t even make sense does it? Well, it’s
complicated.
All the extra length of the LS compared to the 3.8 is to the front. Bellhousings are basically in the same spot. I already knew I was going to have to stretch the
front a few inches to get the upper links around the balancer, then the radiator gets in the way. Can’t stretch it a few more inches to get out in front of the
radiator because the links will still hit the radiator and I want to minimize the amount of stretching on a 4dr. Only other thing that can technically move is the
balancer, but the firewall is in the way. Firewall’s move real easy when you cut them though. I need to see the firewall without the stock engine in the way. Also,
I’m not quite ready to rip out the entire HVAC unit from the Jeep, so I need to see what’s going on on the inside between the HVAC unit and the firewall. So out
came the engine and the dash, so I could look around. This also ties into the roll cage because I need to modify the subframe for the dash for the A-pillar bars.
Starting to pull dash
What is this white gizmo that runs directly to a little box on the key switch? Doesn't say anything on it. Does it have to stay?
Marking for the A-pillar tube (2"x .120"). Should leave the vent ducts untouched.
This give an idea of where the A-pillar is going. The leg going up to the windshield will be straight. No funky bends where you don't want them.
Dash out and cut for the A-pillar bar.
Here's one of many "awe fuck" moments. If I cut out what I marked, I'll also lose the firewall mount part too. Plan is to add a small bracket to the cage bar that
bolts to the dash subframe. Not the end of the world, but I never noticed it till after the other side was cut. Other side doesn't have this issue.
Everything out of the way on the inside.
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ChuckTheRipper 07-20-2017 03:42 PM
About time you start a thread. That's one crazy parts list. I'm mighty jelly. Your pictures aren't showing up, for me at least.
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gt1guy 07-20-2017 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by ChuckTheRipper (Post 4273930)
About time you start a thread. That's one crazy parts list. I'm mighty jelly. Your pictures aren't showing up, for me at least.
Really? No pics. I just started using postimage.org for the hosting cause photobucket fucked everyone.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Does this pic work?
I'll wait to post anything else until I get this picture thing figured out.
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christensent 07-20-2017 06:57 PM
Pics work for me... might be an issue of being on a phone, I can't see most pictures posted on this forum on my phone
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ChuckTheRipper 07-20-2017 10:23 PM
Well fuck. I've never had a problem seeing pictures through Tapatalk.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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gt1guy 07-20-2017 11:20 PM
Originally Posted by christensent (Post 4273994)
Pics work for me... might be an issue of being on a phone, I can't see most pictures posted on this forum on my phone
Ok, cool. I'll keep rolling then.
Originally Posted by ChuckTheRipper (Post 4274081)
Well fuck. I've never had a problem seeing pictures through Tapatalk.
Can you see the pic in post #4? That one I used the "Thumbnail for forums" address. All the others I used the "Hotlink for forums" address.
I have no clue what the difference is. I'm a computer tard.
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gt1guy 07-21-2017 01:05 AM
Here's where all the interference problems come from for moving the firewall back anything more than a inch and wanting to keep the HVAC unit intact.
And this is actually where the problem is circled in red. This is what follows the angled section of the firewall, from the passenger foot well to the sunk in (deep
part) in the center of the fire wall, when the ac lines and heater hoses enter.
At first I thought I could just hit it with a heat gun and slowly work it in. But I soon realized I would absolutely fuck that up and destroy the whole thing. It
needs to move ~3" or so. No way that's happening with heat.
Better shot that shows the angle it runs at.
So I stripped of all the duct work and the big valve thing that switches from fresh air to re-circulation so I could reinstall it and actually see/feel what I'm
dealing with as far as room.
No way to get good pics of what it looked like, but there is about 1.5" of room at the tightest spot. Still need more room.
So next up was the possibility of moving the entire dash back. That turns out to be really easy. I can move the bottom mounts for dash on the trans tunnel
back 2” and the top dash mounts back an inch or so to get the room I need down by the blower/duct for the HVAC unit. Will have to make new foam seals
between the ac lines/heater hoses at the firewall and also the seal between the fresh air intake to the blower. But I'm getting a solid 3.5" or more of clearance.
It was still hard to get pics but I just stuck the camera in a fired away.
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Here's the mount at the trans tunnel. Just have to move the bracket.
Here's the top mount at the wind shield. There are two of these. I'll just extend the tabs holding the studs. I really don't think there will be much of a gap
between the dash cover and the weather stripping. If there is one, a strip of closed cell foam should fill it.
This is how the ac lines and heater hoses end up. If I really want to get fancy, I could move that section of the fire wall back to make it stock looking again.