Do the shitters on Italian trains still just discharge straight onto the tracks?
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Do the shitters on Italian trains still just discharge straight onto the tracks?
Sandy Johnson
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Do the shitters on Italian trains still just discharge straight onto the tracks?
ayup. Apparently it's bad form to use them right when the train is pulling into a station.
so your gripe is ONE city, but your original post said "cities need to figure out mass transit that doesn't suck so I don't have to ride with the poor unwashed masses."
next time don't be so fucking unclear about your classist statements.
Sandy Johnson
Harry Member
so your gripe is ONE city, but your original post said "cities need to figure out mass transit that doesn't suck so I don't have to ride with the poor unwashed masses."
next time don't be so fucking unclear about your classist statements.
No, my gripe is any major city that doesn't have clean, frequent, on time mass transit, but does have tremendous sprawl. LA is the best example and the Bay Area to LA high speed rail is the one solution trotted out by politicians here in California.
Going somewhere like Switzerland really highlights how much the US is currently lacking in the mass transit department. If we ran things in a similar fashion, I would be able to get some sort of mass transit from here in Monterey to the Bay area without having to do rocket science level math to figure out all the connections, times and different modes of transport it would take to get there. I'd just hop on a train here that showed up at the same time every day and said "San Francisco" as the end stop. As it is now, if you were to take some big fancy long distance train to San Francisco, you would need a car to get to Monterey. If I were to take a long distance train to LA, I would have a much harder time moving around the city and its surrounding area compared to a similar setup with a car.
Places that have good public transportation don't have that issue.
Slander
Team no stickys
Pre covid anyone not taking public transit around chicago or new York was a masochist that hated themselves and their wallet. Fuck driving and parking in both those places.
Switzerland also highlights how having pistols and assault rifles in the majority of a country's homes does not lead to gun crimes (compared to gun-free Chitcago).
Oh, and the trains are cool, too. Unfucking gun laws is relatively cheap - let's start there
EDIT: not bullshitting you, see the linkslide for info -
https://www.businessinsider.com/swit...to-use-a-gun-3
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Provience
Kill!
on the one hand, i'm happy inslee isn't now plaguing the whole country, but i'm sad he is still in WA
shortbus4x4
Junk collector
A lot of these European countries that have awesome mass transit are small in size with large populations so it is cheaper and easier to have good mass transit. The US on the other hand has states that are almost as big as Europe with a very small population, much harder to have good mass transit here.
clodhopper
Get off my lawn, punk!
Agree. Although comparing US to Euro mass transit is a bit apples/oranges. Euro chose to tax the crap outta fuel and car purchases decades ago, people migrated to using mass transit, enough people regularly riding it to fund a nice system. The US has focused on keeping gas prices low, so driving is still encouraged and mass transit ridership is low. Population density is the driving factor on mass transit success. We have it in the big urban areas, not so much elsewhere.
Denver spend a TON of money on fasttracks a few years ago and constantly deals with low ridership. Well it is a single line that follows a major highway. Unless you live right near the highway (who wants that?) it isnt convenient. And it isnt well tied into the other transit options of trains and busses. Almost none of the systems properly connect. Not that big of a surprise no one rides it. And I am a guy that grew up just outside Boston and used the T to get everywhere back then.
SanDiegoCJ
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I've lived in and around San Diego since 1975. The mass transit is good for some trips and sux ass for others. Where we live now it's worthless as there's on bus in the morning and one at night.
When we lived at our previous house my drive to work was 30-35 minutes. If I took mass transit it was 2 1/2 hours.
Sandy Johnson
Harry Member
Sounds about right. Most of my mass transit deals in SD have been right down town on the trolly.
SanDiegoCJ
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Before I got married I lived in Mission Valley and if I wanted to go to Old Town, Little Italy, or downtown I just hopped the trolley, but anywhere else took too long.
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
My sister and BIL live in Santa Monica and are train crazy, and I think it comes from trips to Europe, and living in SoCal for 40 years and dealing with traffic. They currently have 6 light rail branches for getting around Los Angeles proper and are planning on expanding it to 28 by the 2028 Olympics. It's horrifically expensive, with land and construction costs, and we all know there will be delays, and the state going bankrupt, etc. No thanks.
rockota
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no opinions on his role other than he's being prepped for bigger office.
frustrating part is the media congratulating him for being the first openly gay person appointed to a cabinet position... when 45 did that 11 months ago.
frustrating part is the media congratulating him for being the first openly gay person appointed to a cabinet position... when 45 did that 11 months ago.
But at least California has high-speed rail
. . .. . . well, almost . . .
. . . from a suburb of Fresno to a suburb of Bakersfield :rolleyes:
. . . well, almost . . .
- side of pork, anyone?
. . . 
Doesn't fit the narrative - "orange man homophobe" :rolleyes:
they always preface that with 'senate confirmed"
Ksand
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So he can back that ass up?
SanDiegoCJ
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[486]
ugh, that guy again?
haha butt-geeg
bet he had a fun time in school
bet he had a fun time in school
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Why do you think he went into politics.........
"I'll show these bullies one day"
Motorcharge
Unregistered User
Who the fuck cares if he's gay anyway. He's either qualified or he's not.
Tired of people making a big deal out of someone being the "first" something or another because they're not white or straight. I don't give a shit if he's a Scotch-Korean tranny covered in tattoos and piercings. I care whether or not the person is qualified for the office they're in.
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
but the potential for virtue signalling!
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
That reminds me... To all you assholes out there, the best troll play in the book is to be overly accepting and placating.
Really makes it seem like you're being treated like a child, retard or leper, but done right there's no politically correct recourse.
Pisses me off every time, even when its done unintentionally, especially when its done unintentionally.
Really makes it seem like you're being treated like a child, retard or leper, but done right there's no politically correct recourse.
Pisses me off every time, even when its done unintentionally, especially when its done unintentionally.
MuntCuffin
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South bend is a shithole and it became a bigger shithole under that asshat.
but then again, political favors dont take into account experience or actual job performance.
but then again, political favors dont take into account experience or actual job performance.
RusM
Amateur Viking
Arguably there's at least 50 more highly qualified people already doing that job at a state level, so.....:rolleyes:
Gatorgrizz27
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IMO the major reason nobody has used trains in the US is that most of our cities aren’t “walkable”, so you’re SOL when you get there unless you were going to visit your girlfriend, parents, or somebody else who would drive you around the whole time.
Now with Uber, Lyft, the Zip Car bullshit, you can actually get around once you’re there. On recent vacations with family to larger cities we have just left cars parked at the house and Ubered the whole time. You can drink, don’t have to worry about parking, navigating an unfamiliar place, etc.
Couple all that with the new “work remotely, save us $ on office space” model, I can see a much larger demand for trains. We are 8 hours from the start of the Keys, which makes even a 3-4 day weekend not worth it. If you could hop on the train at 8 am on a Friday, work all day via the internet, get there in time for happy hour Friday night, spend all day Saturday and Sunday fishing, wake up Monday morning still in Key West, hop on the train and start answering emails while you ride home, it would kick ass.
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
eh, I really doubt that the cities will get any less spread out because people are working remotely, if anything it'll just accelerate the sprawl
Gatorgrizz27
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That wasn’t my point, it was that you can be on a train “working” to and from your weekend vacation on Monday and Friday. Not really possible with air travel.
Poke
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Agreed. I supported some of what he as saying. He had a huge independent and moderate republican following before Biden was picked. I believe if he didn't kiss another man on stage that he would be our rightful president now. People were not ready for that.