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I found an atlas T-case that is for a divorced setup. Is it a big deal to convert it to bolt to a tranny? (No room for divorced)

This one says pax drop. Can’t they go either way?
 
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WaterH said:
I found an atlas T-case that is for a divorced setup. Is it a big deal to convert it to bolt to a tranny? (No room for divorced)

This one says pax drop. Can’t they go either way?
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Ironic timing, no they can't be easily switched to the opposite drop (see my thread)

Divorced to married should be pretty easy to swap, I just came across someone selling their divorced input because they did exactly what you're asking.

Just be aware, atlas has a high resale value. It's easy to get passed the price of a new case (about $3k) when you start changing things like input, flanges/yokes, shifters, ect.
 
WaterH said:
This one says pax drop. Can’t they go either way?
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Older ones aren't readily changeable. No idea when Advance started making them with that benefit in mind, but the latest cases are that way EDIT (but apparently only the race cases).
 
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I just called atlas last week asking about swapping drops right to left. Basically only the case is the same and “other things have to change and it’s not worth it” was the answer I was given. Not sure I buy it as I’ve played with Dana 300 stuff quite a bit.

But the resell value on these is high enough I wouldn’t buy one unless it was exactly what I needed.
 
Rangerrod said:
I just called atlas last week asking about swapping drops right to left. Basically only the case is the same and “other things have to change and it’s not worth it” was the answer I was given. Not sure I buy it as I’ve played with Dana 300 stuff quite a bit.

But the resell value on these is high enough I wouldn’t buy one unless it was exactly what I needed.
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Everything I've read about them just leads me to believe they don't like people messing with their cases.

I have mine apart and i dont see any reason why it couldn't be flipped with a few changes if you wanted it "right" but really, it would probably be just fine upside down if a D300 is fine upside-down. (see my thread)
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Everything I've read about them just leads me to believe they don't like people messing with their cases.

I have mine apart and i dont see any reason why it couldn't be flipped with a few changes if you wanted it "right" but really, it would probably be just fine upside down if a D300 is fine upside-down. (see my thread)
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I think you’re right about them not wanting people messing with them. You know people wouldn’t get something right and blame it on the t-case.
 
Rangerrod said:
I think you’re right about them not wanting people messing with them. You know people wouldn’t get something right and blame it on the t-case.
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That's the smart way to do it. How many of us here have bought tools/products that have shit reviews and come to find out those shit reviews are from fucktards who don't know how to use the tool/product correctly and blame the tool/products and not their stupidity?
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
That's the smart way to do it. How many of us here have bought tools/products that have shit reviews and come to find out those shit reviews are from fucktards who don't know how to use the tool/product correctly and blame the tool/products and not their stupidity?
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I get that, but also don't like being lied to about a product I paid good money for.

They can strongly recommend against it, but if there is only one part that's different, they shouldn't be saying "there are many internals that are different"

Of course mine is old and could be completely different from the newer stuff.
 
Is it the guy on FB who was selling two divorced cases passenger drop for $2k total?

Seemed like a good deal but not in my hood of the country
 
Fuck. I was close by yesterday.

I'd buy these in a heart beat.
 
Atlas’s are very easy to work on IMO until you get whatever YotaAtieToo has. AA will try to dissuade you from working on them yourself because a lot of people really are too dumb and under tooled to touch them. They have to assume if you’re calling to ask questions like “can I just flip this case around to go from driver drop to pass drop” that you shouldn’t be the one taking them apart and putting them back together.

Only race cases are reversible and it’s very obvious to the casual observer which is which.
 
JR4X said:
Atlas’s are very easy to work on IMO until you get whatever YotaAtieToo has. AA will try to dissuade you from working on them yourself because a lot of people really are too dumb and under tooled to touch them. They have to assume if you’re calling to ask questions like “can I just flip this case around to go from driver drop to pass drop” that you shouldn’t be the one taking them apart and putting them back together.

Only race cases are reversible and it’s very obvious to the casual observer which is which.
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And I'm stoopid and thought all newer Atlases were reversible. Good to know it's only the race case; makes even more sense to just buy that over the trail version for the relatively small upcharge.
 
JR4X said:
Atlas’s are very easy to work on IMO until you get whatever YotaAtieToo has. AA will try to dissuade you from working on them yourself because a lot of people really are too dumb and under tooled to touch them.
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What kind of tools do you need to work on an Atlas :confused:
 
Sean said:
And I'm stoopid and thought all newer Atlases were reversible. Good to know it's only the race case; makes even more sense to just buy that over the trail version for the relatively small upcharge.
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They still sell mostly trail cases that are not reversible. If it has this little 4 bolt bearing retainer for the back side of the front output shaft, it’s just a trail case and not in any way reversible.

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Race cases are the same physical size and look the same-ish. Both holes on each side of the case and corresponding bearing retainers have to be the same ID with the same bolt patter to be reversible. Look like this

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Bebop said:
:laughing:

I was expecting you to mention some fancy tool I didn't know about and was like all nerdy and eager to learn :homer:
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No, they are so easy to work on it’s crazy. I’m being sarcastic about the tools but not at all sarcastic about AA trying to convince you that you shouldn’t work on it yourself.

Having a bearing puller makes things a little easier if you’re trying to say, change the input shaft but re-use the old bearing. The hardest thing to manage inside of one is the heavy duty snap rings. The snap ring pliers for doing like a late model superduty unit bearing is just right. I use both straight and 90° ones when working on an Atlas.
 
JR4X said:
No, they are so easy to work on it’s crazy. I’m being sarcastic about the tools but not at all sarcastic about AA trying to convince you that you shouldn’t work on it yourself.
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Gotchu. I was like... WTF :lmao:

JR4X said:
Having a bearing puller makes things a little easier if you’re trying to say, change the input shaft but re-use the old bearing. The hardest thing to manage inside of one is the heavy duty snap rings. The snap ring pliers for doing like a late model superduty unit bearing is just right. I use both straight and 90° ones when working on an Atlas.
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The icon snap ring pliers from HF are worth their weight in gold.
 
JR4X said:
The still sell mostly trail cases that are not reversible. If it has this little 4 bolt bearing retainer for the back side of the front output shaft, it’s just a trail case and not in any way reversible.

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Race cases are the same physical size and look the same-ish. Both hokes on each side of the case and corresponding bearing retainers have to be the same ID with the same bolt patter to be reversible. Look like this

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When I was looking at picking up another Atlas, I was only really looking at race cases just b/c they were billet and only like $200 more...but being able to swap drive sides is a huge benefit IMO....a case like this could be used in multiple rigs if you could swap the output sides and would be totally worth it.
 
My 4 speed I got this year is reversible then wondering if they aren’t race case then?

I still may order a 2 speed one and try to flip it when needed. It’s not rocket science

Edit: by the way tried looking for this info all over the internet and couldn’t find an answer besides”you can do it with the new cases”

JR4X said:
The still sell mostly trail cases that are not reversible. If it has this little 4 bolt bearing retainer for the back side of the front output shaft, it’s just a trail case and not in any way reversible.

IMG_6777.jpeg


Race cases are the same physical size and look the same-ish. Both hokes on each side of the case and corresponding bearing retainers have to be the same ID with the same bolt patter to be reversible. Look like this

IMG_6778.jpeg
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Sean said:
When I was looking at picking up another Atlas, I was only really looking at race cases just b/c they were billet and only like $200 more...but being able to swap drive sides is a huge benefit IMO....a case like this could be used in multiple rigs if you could swap the output sides and would be totally worth it.
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You’re not wrong if you think that far ahead. You’d be surprised how many people won’t spend the extra two hundo to get the better case. The whole actual race case is a difference of like a $1,000 bucks though. Even in the same gear ratio race gears are more expensive, better quality yokes, I don’t remember what all else but if you do the t-case builder on AA’s site you can see the cost difference between each option
 
JR4X said:
You’re not wrong if you think that far ahead. You’d be surprised how many people won’t spend the extra two hundo to get the better case. The whole actual race case is a difference of like a $1,000 bucks though. Even in the same gear ratio race gears are more expensive, better quality yokes, I don’t remember what all else but if you do the t-case builder on AA’s site you can see the cost difference between each option
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Huh....thought I built it both ways a while back and didn't think the total bill was $1K more...but it's been awhile and there were slightly different options (upgrades in the 'pro' case) that bumped the price a bit. Even at $1K...having a case that you could use in a project down the road is still totally worth the entry fee.
 
Rangerrod said:
My 4 speed I got this year is reversible then wondering if they aren’t race case then?

I still may order a 2 speed one and try to flip it when needed. It’s not rocket science

Edit: by the way tried looking for this info all over the internet and couldn’t find an answer besides”you can do it with the new cases”
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Yeah, seeing those two pics makes it evident what the difference is.
 
JR4X said:
Atlas’s are very easy to work on IMO until you get whatever YotaAtieToo has. AA will try to dissuade you from working on them yourself because a lot of people really are too dumb and under tooled to touch them. They have to assume if you’re calling to ask questions like “can I just flip this case around to go from driver drop to pass drop” that you shouldn’t be the one taking them apart and putting them back together.

Only race cases are reversible and it’s very obvious to the casual observer which is which.
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Be sure to avoid the prototype tapered bearing one I got :lmao:
 
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