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Bigredjph said:
Texas97 said:
the message is correct but the messenger is a fed

Lay off the weed, its making you paranoid. :shaking:
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Bigredjph said:
If you want to fix America. Do away with payroll tax deductions. Let everyone with a JOB have to write a check to the IRS. :usa:
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Taxation is theft, weather they steal it from my employer or I forceably have to write that check, which I do 5 times a year ontop of what's seized out of my paycheck. OP should kill himself.
 
Slander said:
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Taxation is theft, weather they steal it from my employer or I forceably have to write that check, which I do 5 times a year ontop of what's seized out of my paycheck. OP should kill himself.
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I guess you don't understand. My idea is the first step in getting people of the porch to fix this working 6 months out of the year just to pay your damn taxes. Another reason I don't post. No matter how you write something, some dumb motherfucker is going to disagree with you while saying the same thing. :shaking:
 
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Bigredjph said:
I guess you don't understand. My idea is the first step in getting people of the porch to fix this working 6 months out of the year just to pay your damn taxes. Another reason I don't post. No matter how you write something, some dumb motherfucker is going to disagree with you while saying the same thing. :shaking:
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No, it's a retarded idea that won't change anything because millions of people a year do exactly what you are saying. Try not having 800 tax deductions, gizz your pants because you get a refund every year and actually owe these fuck sticks money and you will realize that you are wrong.
 
Slander said:
No, it's a retarded idea that won't change anything because millions of people a year do exactly what you are saying. Try not having 800 tax deductions, gizz your pants because you get a refund every year and actually owe these fuck sticks money and you will realize that you are wrong.
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Did you miss the part where I do have to send them money? I'm 1099, not w2. I think if the w2 people had to take care of their taxes the way 1099 people do, things would change in a hurry. With-holding up front is by design. You don't miss what you never had.

Again, you are to stupid to see we are saying the same thing. :shaking:
 
Bigredjph said:
Did you miss the part where I do have to send them money? I'm 1099, not w2. I think if the w2 people had to take care of their taxes the way 1099 people do, things would change in a hurry. With-holding up front is by design. You don't miss what you never had.

Again, you are to stupid to see we are saying the same thing. :shaking:
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No, it is a retarded idea. Anyone with a job knows taxes are withheld and they know how much. All that info is on the paystub every payday.
 
bigtoy302 said:
You forgot two very important things

5. Lobbying will be illegal

6. No member of congress may hold stocks including family members.

7. No money/aid will be sent to other countries.

Those two 5 and 6 are the reasons why every member of congress is worth millions and doesn't care about who they represent

I say do away with all income taxes and deductions and just have a consumption tax. Then everyone pays the same including illegals and people visiting. No taxes on food or housing.
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I agree.

One of the main parts of busting up DC and forbidding office and staff is because lobbyist.

It’s harder to lobby when you’re in 50 states and 435 districts.

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And, when people start writing a check, instead of it magically disappearing from their paycheck, and Congress has required a balance budget, the money to foreign governments should take care of itself.
 
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SanDiegoCJ said:
No, it is a retarded idea. Anyone with a job knows taxes are withheld and they know how much. All that info is on the paystub every payday.
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once they switched to direct deposit I saw one paystub in two years
he still a fed, but...
 
We can start with eliminating redundant alphabet agencies and with the ones that survive the purge will be moved out of the bubble of DC.

And make congress a part time job.
 
SanDiegoCJ said:
No, it is a retarded idea. Anyone with a job knows taxes are withheld and they know how much. All that info is on the paystub every payday.
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The fact that YOU disagree with me tells me I am probably right. People look at that pay stub and forget about it 10 minutes later. Come February they're looking for that W-2 hoping for a refund. I used to be one of them people about 30 years ago. Now I have to hang on to every receipt and look for every deduction I can find to keep from sending them any more money than I have to. I'm saying writing a check pisses me off a lot worse than looking at my pay stub every did. Go tell your employer to the drop your deductions to the bare minimum, if possible deduct nothing at all, then come talk to me next April.
 
Bigredjph said:
The fact that YOU disagree with me tells me I am probably right. People look at that pay stub and forget about it 10 minutes later. Come February they're looking for that W-2 hoping for a refund. I used to be one of them people about 30 years ago. Now I have to hang on to every receipt and look for every deduction I can find to keep from sending them any more money than I have to. I'm saying writing a check pisses me off a lot worse than looking at my pay stub every did. Go tell your employer to the drop your deductions to the bare minimum, if possible deduct nothing at all, then come talk to me next April.
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And none of that will change if they have to write a check.
 
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once they switched to direct deposit I saw one paystub in two years
he still a fed, but...
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Paranoid. The feds ain't worried about this group until you start talking about gathering in mass. Right now we are just a bunch of porch monkeys and all talk.

I was just floating a idea to see what others thought about this. I figured the check writers (1099) would come out in force in agreeance. Paying taxes on my money when I make it, paying taxes on my money when I spend it and paying taxes on shit already bought.
 
Slander said:
No, it's a retarded idea that won't change anything because millions of people a year do exactly what you are saying. Try not having 800 tax deductions, gizz your pants because you get a refund every year and actually owe these fuck sticks money and you will realize that you are wrong.
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Ok. Now you mentioned giz. We can go back to the hammock with a rusty avocado now. :homer:

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Every pay stub I’ve ever got (like most everyone else) has shown exactly how much taxes are taken out. I think the bigger problem here is that with direct deposit, no one ever checks their actual stubs any more to see how much is stolen monthly by big daddy.

Eliminating withholdings and having everyone write a check at the end of the year would probably be very eye opening to the majority of the mouth breathers who don’t realize how much of their money is stolen from them each month, and I’d expect most wouldn’t have saved enough to cover it.
 
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Bigredjph said:
Did you miss the part where I do have to send them money? I'm 1099, not w2. I think if the w2 people had to take care of their taxes the way 1099 people do, things would change in a hurry. With-holding up front is by design. You don't miss what you never had.

Again, you are to stupid to see we are saying the same thing. :shaking:
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Cool an Uber driver is posting:flipoff2:. What has that done to change anything for you personally tax wise to fight the system or national tax policy? Millions of people write these checks and nothing changes.

It's the same with hardcore 2a people saying they need guns to fight off tyrannical government, meanwhile we have the largest government in history and the most tyrannical in our history and nothing changes.

For the record I'm a 2a absolutist, I should be able to own an attack helicopter with nuclear tipped missiles and anything less than that is a right infringement.
 
I pay my taxes and vote accordingly. Those who think taxes are a nesescary evil would start changing their minds if they had to pay for their taxes to acquire a ballot.

The counter point, with current tax law, those with 8 kids would get a payment to vote. :laughing:


Ron Paul 2024. :flipoff2:
 
Slander said:
Cool an Uber driver is posting:flipoff2:. What has that done to change anything for you personally tax wise to fight the system or national tax policy? Millions of people write these checks and nothing changes.

It's the same with hardcore 2a people saying they need guns to fight off tyrannical government, meanwhile we have the largest government in history and the most tyrannical in our history and nothing changes.

For the record I'm a 2a absolutist, I should be able to own an attack helicopter with nuclear tipped missiles and anything less than that is a right infringement.
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Valid point.

So I had a discussion with a coworker/friend about what it is going to take to turn this Country around. More specifically after kamala is completely installed as the puppet she is.
His, very candid conclusion.

Stop paying taxes. Period. They can't get all of us.

Retarded? Yes. Is it really though?
 
Briansc33 said:
Stop paying taxes. Period. They can't get all of us.

Retarded? Yes. Is it really though?
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Get off the porch, they can't get all of you.:shaking:
Yes, it must be a retarded idea.

Because most people agree that a certain small level of tax is needed to provide for our borders and military defense and emergency response to epidemics as a country. But take note, I only listed 3 specific functions. All other matters are for the states and not the federal government.

Hope it makes sense.
 
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