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I have a need for a driveshaft that's going to operate at a fairly steep, but static, angle of ~17 degrees. It's also going to see up to 5000rpm. I've pretty well decided that a 930 series \series 15 Porsche style CV joints make the most sense. I've already got adapters handled, but now I need to buy joints and a shaft. I don't think I'll need plunging joints, the 1/4" or so of play in the splines should be plenty I think. Who does this kind of thing? It would be nice for it to get balanced too.
 
EMPI or GKN for cheap joints.
RCV for expensive ones.
 
I've emailed both of them asking for a suggestion for joint when used as a driveshaft and neither replied.
 


 
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I'm in the same boat. I've just assumed I'll use a GMT800 CV and just keep warrantying it out at Autozone. :laughing:
 
Duuuuuuude.

That's right in the middle of the range for off the shelf automotive stuff.

You should be building adapters to use an off the shelf CV and warrantying that bitch out when it goes pop.

You probably already know this but critical speed is over 10k for a 1.25 shaft of that length so you don't even have to worry about that either.
 
Here's a random Subaru shaft.

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How long it need to run and what torque? Will there be a joint at both ends?

CVs burn up quickly when used as a driveshaft at steep angles. Jeep JK make for a good example. Their driveshaft have a CV at axle is guaranteed to fail when lifted, even with a small lift and stay in 2wd 100% of time.
 
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How long it need to run and what torque? Will there be a joint at both ends?

CVs burn up quickly when used as a driveshaft at steep angles. Jeep JK make for a good example. Their front driveshaft have a CV at axle is guaranteed to fail when lifted, even with a small lift and stay in 2wd 100% of time.


Jeeps fail because the boot tears and the grease gets flung out.

If he can keep it greased it will probably be fine.
 
Duuuuuuude.

That's right in the middle of the range for off the shelf automotive stuff.

You should be building adapters to use an off the shelf CV and warrantying that bitch out when it goes pop.

You probably already know this but critical speed is over 10k for a 1.25 shaft of that length so you don't even have to worry about that either.
It looks like EMPI has shafts of the correct length as well.

FWIW a "930 CV" is an off the shelf half shaft joint for a Porsche 930. And while I initially thought I'd be outside the speed range, it actually isn't. Stock application at top speed the halfshafts/tires are seeing 7000rpm so 5k shouldn't be an issue but I'd like someone in the know to confirm.
 
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How long it need to run and what torque? Will there be a joint at both ends?

CVs burn up quickly when used as a driveshaft at steep angles. Jeep JK make for a good example. Their front driveshaft have a CV at axle is guaranteed to fail when lifted, even with a small lift and stay in 2wd 100% of time.
~600ft lbs peak. Needs to last 2000 miles. Yes, same joint at both ends. Independent suspension application so no travel.
 
It looks like EMPI has shafts of the correct length as well.

FWIW a "930 CV" is an off the shelf half shaft joint for a Porsche 930. And while I initially thought I'd be outside the speed range, it actually isn't. Stock application at top speed the halfshafts/tires are seeing 7000rpm so 5k shouldn't be an issue but I'd like someone in the know to confirm.

did you check toyota joints? all the aussies use them as driveshafts
 
FWIW a "930 CV" is an off the shelf half shaft joint for a Porsche 930. And while I initially thought I'd be outside the speed range, it actually isn't. Stock application at top speed the halfshafts/tires are seeing 7000rpm so 5k shouldn't be an issue but I'd like someone in the know to confirm.
your rpm #s doesn't compute for me.

may want to check your calcuations.

my math tells me at porsche 930's top speed (157 mph?), half shafts/tires turn at roughly 2,000 rpm....
 
 
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your rpm #s doesn't compute for me.

may want to check your calcuations.

my math tells me at porsche 930's top speed (157 mph?), half shafts/tires turn at roughly 2,000 rpm....
You're definitely right. I forgot pi. Hmmmm
 
You're definitely right. I forgot pi. Hmmmm
Drive shaft or axle? If I remember correctly, 930's can spin 6K reliably. We ran them on the short course trucks in the Mickey Thompson series. That didn't have that high of speed, but with 6.50 gearing the DS's were singing right along. On the outdoor events it was pretty common to redline in top gear which would have the DS spinning over 7K when you figure in convertor slip.
 
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Good info all, thanks. One other question, it looks like these CV's are just using the bolts to hold them concentric? Seems odd, the grand Cherokee GKN joint appears to have a counterbore in the yoke to make sure they are centered, but it looks like the Porsche stuff just uses the bolts, I can't see any evidence of a counterbore?
 
All the flanges I have have lips on them. I don't know about factory ones but all off road ones have lips.
 
If you were already prepared to make flange adapters it should be cake to make something to center it with.
 
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