smurfblue40
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Hiroshima...
6 August 1945
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That saved a lot of lives.
Wheelerfreak
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Burnt rice that day.
it’s amazing how many people want to rewrite the need for that and how little the Japanese are taught in school about their involvement in The WW2.
it’s amazing how many people want to rewrite the need for that and how little the Japanese are taught in school about their involvement in The WW2.
CDA 455 II
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That brings warmth to my heart.
Truth be told;
The Japanese were scared to death of the Soviet Union (who declared war on them the next day (Aug7-8)), and not the U.S.
The Japanese government AND their fucktard emperor deliberately/intentionally allowed Nagasaki to be nuked via not responding to Truman's ultimatum.
Truth be told;
The Japanese were scared to death of the Soviet Union (who declared war on them the next day (Aug7-8)), and not the U.S.
The Japanese government AND their fucktard emperor deliberately/intentionally allowed Nagasaki to be nuked via not responding to Truman's ultimatum.
MT-TOY
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That was one big roach bomb they dropped that day. It quelled their need to fuck with America, that's for sure. Bomb Pearl Harbor, we raise you Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Bitches.
bigun
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another toyota from P.R.K
Just watched an interview with some of the crewMEN..
88mitsu
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And communism took over most of SE Asia after that. 
evernoob
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I want to note that I am not being glib about the Pacific War, which was a human tragedy of epic proportions. Dropping nuclear weapons on Japan was nothing short of a liberation of the Japanese people.
We were raised on Holocaust pornography, all of us, so the crimes of Nazi Germany have always been held up as the standard for evil. Churchill himself described Nazi Germany thus:
"A monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalog of human crime."
China has inadvertently cleared some of the Historical air about Japan, which committed, perhaps not as many atrocities, but many more severe atrocities than the worst dreamt up by Dr. Mengele.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
There is a Korean black and white film about Unit 731 available on Youtube. I don't recommend you watch it. I'm sorry that I did.
The Chinese have been using Japanese atrocities to stir up trouble in Asia, but unfortunately for them, they are very nearly as bad right now, so everyone hates them instead. Vietnam is courting the US as an ally. For those of us of our age, that takes a minute to sink in every single time you confront the fact.
In the upcoming Pacific conflict we are preparing for, I want to arm you Patriots and Nationalists with a very important fact in your internet and real life travels:
The United States began WWII by imposing an arms embargo on the Empire of Japan in 1938. This led to an escalating series of embargoes culminating in the freezing of Japanese assets in July, 1941, and the Oil Embargo on August 1, 1941. That virtually forced Japan to go to war. They had an out. They could have stopped mutilating babies in China, but they chose otherwise:
To repeat: The US got into WWII by protecting the people of China using diplomacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Events...n_Pearl_Harbor
Remember that in your conversations.
China is Communist, and they use anti-Colonialism as a charge to stir people up. The two greatest Anti-Colonialists of the 20th century are not Communists, though. They are Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Dwight David Eisenhower. Ike stomped on the British and French Empires in the 1956 Suez Crisis, effectively ending European Colonialism for good. FDR's only point of contention in an otherwise rosy friendship with Churchill was his insistence on not respecting the requirements of the British Empire, but fully supporting Britain itself.
So China has no charge against the US: without the US, China would be a slave State under the bootheel of Japan.
That is why you see the Blackrock Indian protests and more and more charges of Genocide against white Americans vis a vis the 'Natives' (they are not native, of course, they are an invasive species just like whites. The Khoi-San people of South Africa may be the only truly native human beings left on Earth).
That is why you see inflated charges of US oil Imperialism in the Middle East. The US has never really used ME oil other than it being on a world market, the US is in the ME to ensure the peaceful flow of oil to Europe, and Asia, primarily China and Japan.
The US does this because funding a giant Navy and bullying the Kindergartners into submission is a lot cheaper than sending the entire male issue of the Sullivan family to fucking Guadalcanal to be mangled by Jap torpedoes.
Every time you see the ugly head of Commie propaganda raise itself in the US: The Antifa/BLM hysteria, the charges of Genocide against AmerInds, the Colonial charge, know that it is China. And know that those ungrateful bastards are fragile about it because we saved their asses in WWII.
Final note. George HW Bush was an airman in WWII and he flew a TBF Avenger in WWII, and he was shot down. He made it, and there is footage of him climbing up on the deck of a US submarine. His squadron mates were not so lucky. They washed ashore on Japanese held islands and were beaten and tortured to death in front of Australian and British prisoners of war. Then their livers were eaten in an act of ceremonial cannibalism.
That is what happened to us. That's what Leftists and Chinese are trying to erase and ignore. The US invented State human compassion and ended the Age of State Brutality. That cost us the livers of several young men flying slow crates over the Pacific, and much more. And now the Chinese and Lefties are making the charge that we are the inventors of human brutality.
The dropping of atomic weapons on Japanese civilians was nothing short of the liberation of the Japanese people, and the current Cultural War is nothing short of a battle for the future of Humankind. I rarely get that flowery here, but that's what it is. This is a battle of Good versus Evil, and we are the Good Guys.
There is nothing to be guilty about. 'They' are children, and they stomp in our face for helping them.
We were raised on Holocaust pornography, all of us, so the crimes of Nazi Germany have always been held up as the standard for evil. Churchill himself described Nazi Germany thus:
"A monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalog of human crime."
China has inadvertently cleared some of the Historical air about Japan, which committed, perhaps not as many atrocities, but many more severe atrocities than the worst dreamt up by Dr. Mengele.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
There is a Korean black and white film about Unit 731 available on Youtube. I don't recommend you watch it. I'm sorry that I did.
The Chinese have been using Japanese atrocities to stir up trouble in Asia, but unfortunately for them, they are very nearly as bad right now, so everyone hates them instead. Vietnam is courting the US as an ally. For those of us of our age, that takes a minute to sink in every single time you confront the fact.
In the upcoming Pacific conflict we are preparing for, I want to arm you Patriots and Nationalists with a very important fact in your internet and real life travels:
The United States began WWII by imposing an arms embargo on the Empire of Japan in 1938. This led to an escalating series of embargoes culminating in the freezing of Japanese assets in July, 1941, and the Oil Embargo on August 1, 1941. That virtually forced Japan to go to war. They had an out. They could have stopped mutilating babies in China, but they chose otherwise:
To repeat: The US got into WWII by protecting the people of China using diplomacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Events...n_Pearl_Harbor
Remember that in your conversations.
China is Communist, and they use anti-Colonialism as a charge to stir people up. The two greatest Anti-Colonialists of the 20th century are not Communists, though. They are Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Dwight David Eisenhower. Ike stomped on the British and French Empires in the 1956 Suez Crisis, effectively ending European Colonialism for good. FDR's only point of contention in an otherwise rosy friendship with Churchill was his insistence on not respecting the requirements of the British Empire, but fully supporting Britain itself.
So China has no charge against the US: without the US, China would be a slave State under the bootheel of Japan.
That is why you see the Blackrock Indian protests and more and more charges of Genocide against white Americans vis a vis the 'Natives' (they are not native, of course, they are an invasive species just like whites. The Khoi-San people of South Africa may be the only truly native human beings left on Earth).
That is why you see inflated charges of US oil Imperialism in the Middle East. The US has never really used ME oil other than it being on a world market, the US is in the ME to ensure the peaceful flow of oil to Europe, and Asia, primarily China and Japan.
The US does this because funding a giant Navy and bullying the Kindergartners into submission is a lot cheaper than sending the entire male issue of the Sullivan family to fucking Guadalcanal to be mangled by Jap torpedoes.
Every time you see the ugly head of Commie propaganda raise itself in the US: The Antifa/BLM hysteria, the charges of Genocide against AmerInds, the Colonial charge, know that it is China. And know that those ungrateful bastards are fragile about it because we saved their asses in WWII.
Final note. George HW Bush was an airman in WWII and he flew a TBF Avenger in WWII, and he was shot down. He made it, and there is footage of him climbing up on the deck of a US submarine. His squadron mates were not so lucky. They washed ashore on Japanese held islands and were beaten and tortured to death in front of Australian and British prisoners of war. Then their livers were eaten in an act of ceremonial cannibalism.
That is what happened to us. That's what Leftists and Chinese are trying to erase and ignore. The US invented State human compassion and ended the Age of State Brutality. That cost us the livers of several young men flying slow crates over the Pacific, and much more. And now the Chinese and Lefties are making the charge that we are the inventors of human brutality.
The dropping of atomic weapons on Japanese civilians was nothing short of the liberation of the Japanese people, and the current Cultural War is nothing short of a battle for the future of Humankind. I rarely get that flowery here, but that's what it is. This is a battle of Good versus Evil, and we are the Good Guys.
There is nothing to be guilty about. 'They' are children, and they stomp in our face for helping them.
Weasel
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WWI and WWII still amaze me. No way we could have won either of those wars with people today.
smurfblue40
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was listening to a podcast with a vietnam POW the other day, he went back decades after the war and people had no clue about the war.
different times, comparing apples to oranges.
Motorcharge
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Yep, the war crime shit the Japanese did was far worse than what the Nazis were doing. Not just human experimentation, but they tried to use a lot of biological and chemical weapons including spreading bubonic plague in enemy populations via bombings, pest introduction, ect. There were plans and attempts to spread plague in California that ultimately either failed or never got off the ground.
A lot of the terrible shit the Japanese were doing got swept under the rug when we gave huge portions of the Japanese scientists immunity in exchange for their research. At least the Germans had huge technological advancements we were able to take advantage from. We basically got nothing from the Japanese research.
SanDiegoCJ
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Yup, both allied and Japanese.
SanDiegoCJ
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That's what the Japanese thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Congratulations, you just made the same mistake they did.
SanDiegoCJ
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I recommend this book for those interested in who/how the decision was made to use the bomb.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cou...ace/1136602745
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cou...ace/1136602745
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That's what the Japanese thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Congratulations, you just made the same mistake they did.
That is exactly right.
Both the Japanese and Germans really made a big deal out of Spoiled Capitalists and lazy white people.
The Chinese do the same thing with Baizuo. They also ran a lot of that propaganda in the Korean War.
Baizuo (pronounced "bye-tswaw) is a Chinese epithet meaning naive western educated person who advocates for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority. A baizuo only cares about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment while being obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they import backwards Islamic values for the sake of ...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baizuo
Chinese hang out in Universities and professional organizations, so they have a misperception that all Westerners are Baizuo. It's odd that so many baizuo have crept into IBB.
Muckin_Slusher
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How do you KNOW we got nothing from the jap research?
I've looked on the 'net and found nothing about what General McArthur gained from them in exchange for immunity.
Was that info ever released?
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This is not right. Documentaries and most books and curriculum have this wrong. That's changing right now.
The Germans didn't really have anything, their contribution is well-known: The space program. And that is only because they were already working on it. There is nothing particularly 'advanced' about the V-2 rocket or early space program, but since they were already working on it, to continue made sense.
There is literally nothing the Germans had which was a revolution for American science or tech.
The great tech advancements in the war that counted are the Cavity Magnetron (British), and the radar-directed fire control developed from it (American), and proximity-fused (VT) shells (American).
A growing number of Historians are counting American warship Radar-Directed Fire Control as the most advanced tech of the war, replacing the B-29 and the Atomic Bomb.
The Mark 37 Director equipped with 3 cm radar, with a wave-guide, synchronized with the Ford Mark 1 fire-control computer, and Remote Power Control for anti-aircraft turrets, makes the V-2 and Me-262 look like anvils.
The Americans had tech where it counted. Even by 1941 standards, the Jeep is primitive. Standardization, ease of manufacture, and reliability are more important than Buzz Bombs.
There is no specific technology I can think of that the Germans developed which America picked up after the war because they didn't have it.
The German scientists and engineers certainly worked very hard and were an amazing asset. We would have had swept wings anyway, maybe the Germans shortened that development, and certainly the Saturn V couldn't have been carrying people to the moon by 1969. But the rocket carried virtually no German tech other than generalized concepts by that time.
If you pay attention to the documentaries, what you'll see is something like this:
"Kelly Johnson developed a quasi-stealth wing at the Skunk Works, and after the plane was built, later examination of the [insert German plane] revealed many design similarities...."
The Germans were VERY good, but schizophrenic, under-funded, mis-used, and overwhelmed. There was no real scientific coherence due to the Authoritarian nature of Nazi Fascism, an advantage we also enjoy over the Chinese. Now we just have to kick them out of all of our scientific institutes and then make war on them.
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Happy birthday Little Boy.
Motorcharge
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I'm too lazy to go back and find who said it, but we basically knew most of what they were researching already. I was just reading about some of the bio and chem warfare units from Japan recently. Chem side wasn't all that advanced. Bio side was using stuff we already knew about like bubonic plague, cholera, smallpox, ect.
There's a reason we kept using most of the Nazi scientists, their work was still relevant. The Japanese stuff wasn't really of any use so most of them got cut loose. Hell, no one even knew what happened to Shiro Ishii until he reappeared out of nowhere in the late 50s shortly before he died.
The Japanese scientists weren't all that professional or thorough in documentation either. Most the shit they were doing was glorified torture.
Weasel
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That's what the Japanese thought when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Congratulations, you just made the same mistake they did.
Oh really? Have you seen all the riots and complaints over COVID it's been 5 months and the bitching and whining hasn't stopped and people are losing their minds. Or how quickly people lost focus on the current wars we have been involved in.
How would they react to curfews, rations of food, materials, gasoline for years? All for an enemy that never did invade the US mainland (exception of the Elusian islands which know one knows about anyway.)
Truth...
A lot is discussed about the German Doctors and their experiments but little is written/spoken about the Jap Doctors doing experiments on POWs.
I cannot recall the name of Jap company but they are well established due to "medical research"-
Muckin_Slusher
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This was on Shiro Ishii's wiki page:
"Among these was Dr. Edwin Hill, the Chief of Fort Detrick, whose report stated that the information was "absolutely invaluable;" it "could never have been obtained in the United States because of scruples attached to experiments on humans," and "the information was obtained fairly cheaply."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirō_Ishii
Poor souls who lived through that shit.
SanDiegoCJ
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Worthless analogy. You've just shown you're as malinformed as the Japanese in 1941.
Motorcharge
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Read up on his report though, it's basically a propaganda piece to justify the immunity. They even try to cover up POWs being involved in it and try to say a lot of the victims were volunteers.