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2005 Escalade EXT (aka GMT 800 argument thread)

total newb said:
So a duramax, allison, quadrasteer, avalanch could be built with 100% oe parts?

Cause i love me some never existed but totaly plausable gm's.
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Might as well use the Caddy body and interior for extra oddball points.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Might as well use the Caddy body and interior for extra oddball points.
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my beater burb has denali seats; i'm on the lookout for a cherry 02 escalade ( GMT 800 pre-facelift was 1 yr only, no burb length sold til 03-06 facelift interior which narrowed the seats 2" and widened the center console 3-4").
 
total newb said:
So a duramax, allison, quadrasteer, avalanch could be built with 100% oe parts?

Cause i love me some never existed but totaly plausable gm's.
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yes,parts bin combos are near endless with GMT 8xx.

For extra points, you could use a 02 avalanche which had round eye generation interior with avalanche (cateye) exterior;
note also the cladded avalanche headlights are also completely unique to the specific model; differing from non-cladded avalanche models which share the cateyes with the truck.

or slap a GMC denali HD front clip on it because there was never a GMC branded truck-burb-alanche from the production line in half ton much less the 8 lug variant. (but again, note that the denali headlamp housings are kidney bean shaped and do not interchange with the mere peasant grade plain oval shaped ones GMC grill/headlights.)
 
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total newb said:
So a duramax, allison, quadrasteer, avalanch could be built with 100% oe parts?

Cause i love me some never existed but totaly plausable gm's.
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I think there may be issues with jamming a duramax into a non-HD frame without mods, but there’s plenty of burbmax conversions out there so it must not be insurmountable.
 
IowaOffRoad said:
I think there may be issues with jamming a duramax into a non-HD frame without mods, but there’s plenty of burbmax conversions out there so it must not be insurmountable.
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yeah duraburbs are pretty well mapped territory. I know a guy who had a pretty well sorted one with functional quadrasteer for a minute before somebody's wallet wanted to own it more than he did.
 
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I had a 2002. Loved it, till the trans shit the bed at 175k ish miles. owned it for 40k miles or so and it will get you 14-16mpg, and be comfy as shit doing it. have a Yukon XL now and the interior space is nice, but I do miss the bed.

aftermarket air pumps/shocks for the rear exist if your compressor or shock dies.

biggest issue I had was the front diff. AWD means they're always engaged, and they kind of suck, backlash on the gearing goes out of whack and they start to whine. It can be swapped with some cursing not too bad, I did it 2 or 3 times:homer: you can use a 4wd front diff in an AWD, just remove the electric solenoid, cut a piece of scrap pipe or something to push down teh plunger, and thread in a pipe fitting. I ran one like this for 20k or so, till the truck got scrapped
 
Expect a trans soon, maybe a tcsase as has been said. Rear air stuff can be replaced with springs/shocks if you don't want to fuck with it when it fucks up. Otherwise, good platform.
 
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Blacksheep10 said:
Expect a trans soon, maybe a tcsase as has been said. Rear air stuff can be replaced with springs/shocks if you don't want to fuck with it when it fucks up. Otherwise, good platform.
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I'd expect closer to 200k out of a meticulous 75yo owned diaper shined one that came with cases of Mobile 1 synth fluid. And also the burb platform being more commonly equipped with the aux trans cooler, even at its ~4x8" size, seems to help them live a little longer
 
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WTF? said:
I'd expect closer to 200k out of a meticulous 75yo owned diaper shined one that came with cases of Mobile 1 synth fluid. And also the burb platform being more commonly equipped with the aux trans cooler, even at its ~4x8" size, seems to help them live a little longer
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Probably right. I'm just going off of that platform in general, saw them commonly from 135-200K, just have the money sitting there after 150 for WHEN it happens:laughing:
 
Blacksheep10 said:
Expect a trans soon, maybe a tcsase as has been said. Rear air stuff can be replaced with springs/shocks if you don't want to fuck with it when it fucks up. Otherwise, good platform.
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Just got a history report from another IRATE and it had a goodwrench transmission installed 40k miles ago! Dealer notes said trans was slipping. No other info
 
WTF? said:
my beater burb has denali seats; i'm on the lookout for a cherry 02 escalade ( GMT 800 pre-facelift was 1 yr only, no burb length sold til 03-06 facelift interior which narrowed the seats 2" and widened the center console 3-4").
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I'm sure you're aware, but the cluster is also unique to 2002 and nobody repairs them. Mine had issues on and off with 3/4 of the gauges. Had to ignore it

never realized the seats were different. center console, I never saw a lid the same as mine was, so i guess that explains that
 
budget76 said:
I'm sure you're aware, but the cluster is also unique to 2002 and nobody repairs them. Mine had issues on and off with 3/4 of the gauges. Had to ignore it

never realized the seats were different. center console, I never saw a lid the same as mine was, so i guess that explains that
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I find that hard to believe- stepper motors are stepper motors and they fail on all year ranges (but none as jack rabbit quickly as 03-05) and that unicorn is probably a combo of 99.5-02 and 03-07 classic GMT 800 parts.

But if you told me nobody would warranty that repair, i'd certainly buy that.
 
WTF? said:
I find that hard to believe- stepper motors are stepper motors and they fail on all year ranges (but none as jack rabbit quickly as 03-05) and that unicorn is probably a combo of 99.5-02 and 03-07 classic GMT 800 parts.

But if you told me nobody would warranty that repair, i'd certainly buy that.
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I casually looked for the 4 years it had issues when it would get on my nerves. not a single repair company I found would work on the 2002 cluster, everyone was 2003+. nothing I found documented about the stepper motors on the 2002 cluster

I had the same mentality. but nobody advertised touching it. I did not call every place to ask, wasn't worth my effort
 
If it's just a simple stepper replacement your local electronics repair place should be able to handle it.
 
Penetrode Offroad said:
We have an 03 Chevy 1500 avalanche with 220k miles. Its become a 20 mile range vehicle because its left us stranded 4 times driving anywhere longer. Usually towing a car trailer or camper.

I fucking hate it.
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I was in a toxic relationship with my 03-04 ~100K mile quick fix/flip Avalanche as well- there was a marathon saga of a thread on it at the old place.

I got it sorted enough to be somewhat confident that it would make it through a test drive without the dash lighting up like Christmas and passed her down the line. { The landscaper I did a partial labor trade plus enough cash to get back what i put into it sale with no longer accepts my calls but wasn't displeased for at least 8 months or so..}

I know millions of good 03-06's exist, but i've played with fire enough to accept that the universe strongly dictates that i belong in the 99.5-02 sandbox.
 
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Clemson13 said:
I should have been a pilot :lmao:

Since I love flying more than my career anyway. Just too old to justify the switch now.
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Thats a whole new thread, but i have only flown 10 hours because I went into the training department... I am teaching in the simulators now and have plenty of "kids are gone and I want to fly" new hires starting career #2...
 
WTF? said:
I was in a toxic relationship with my 03-04 ~100K mile quick fix/flip Avalanche as well- there was a marathon saga of a thread on it at the old place.

I got it sorted enough to be somewhat confident that it would make it through a test drive without the dash lighting up like Christmas and passed her down the line. { The landscaper I did a partial labor trade plus enough cash to get back what i put into it sale with no longer accepts my calls but wasn't displeased for at least 8 months or so..}

I know millions of good 03-06's exist, but i've played with fire enough to accept that the universe strongly dictates that i belong in the 99.5-02 sandbox.
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My 2004 wasn’t perfect

I did the stepper motors myself
Driver front window regulator
Rear glass replacement (cracked gasket)
Front diff 2x (first used, rebuilt OE and reinstalled)
Fuel pump
Hard brake line to the rear
Spare tire winch
Multiple front marker lights because the clips would bust off

Brakes were an issue, Probably should have replaced shocks to help with brake dive. Went through three sets

I replaced a lot of parts in six years of ownership/40k miles. Maybe my truck was a piece of fucking shit 💩 lol
 
[memphis] said:
My 2004 wasn’t perfect

I did the stepper motors myself
Driver front window regulator
Rear glass replacement (cracked gasket)
Front diff 2x (first used, rebuilt OE and reinstalled)
Fuel pump
Hard brake line to the rear
Spare tire winch
Multiple front marker lights because the clips would bust off

Brakes were an issue, Probably should have replaced shocks to help with brake dive. Went through three sets

I replaced a lot of parts in six years of ownership/40k miles. Maybe my truck was a piece of fucking shit 💩 lol
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i didn't do half of that to my escalade in the last 65k, but the front diff whines.
 
gunracer1 said:
i didn't do half of that to my escalade in the last 65k, but the front diff whines.
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sounds like the canadian winters fucked his truck up;

however eating brakes is not something i have ever heard as a common issue with the platform, perhaps rusty/ corroded calipers/slides?
 
Pyleit said:
Thats a whole new thread, but i have only flown 10 hours because I went into the training department... I am teaching in the simulators now and have plenty of "kids are gone and I want to fly" new hires starting career #2...
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very off topic in this thread, but are these people who want to fly for the airlines starting at 40-50 years old? Seems late to jump into that career.
 
Clemson13 said:
I should have been a pilot :lmao:

Since I love flying more than my career anyway. Just too old to justify the switch now.
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45acp said:
I don't understand the 4L60 complaining... its literally the cheapest modern truck trans to rebuild and there's upgradable parts available. Spend the 2 grand and never worry about it again.

Some of you never got assraped by an A4LD and it shows.
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GMT800 aren't bulletproof by any means. Like any other chevy, just cheap to maintain/repair. All the 'problems' are well documented.

Depending on application and owner, a 4L60 will do 200k+. It's $7-8k for a 8L## and they're garuanteed to shell out the TQ and trash the whole lot around 130k or less. Fuck a 10spd.

I'd rock a built 4spd auto and have it bang every gear
 
TRINDU said:
GMT800 aren't bulletproof by any means. Like any other chevy, just cheap to maintain/repair. All the 'problems' are well documented.

Depending on application and owner, a 4L60 will do 200k+. It's $7-8k for a 8L## and they're garuanteed to shell out the TQ and trash the whole lot around 130k or less. Fuck a 10spd.

I'd rock a built 4spd auto and have it bang every gear
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Well of course they're not bulletproof... im not a ride or die GM person by any means. But the failures w/gmt800 are well documented, the trucks themselves are cheap parts and easy to work on, and the old 4L60 can be rebuilt solid as hell for pennies compared to anything modern.

I'm typing this sitting in a '17 tahoe with 100k on it that's going to need a $5k 6L80 any day now. Not only fuck a 10 speed, but fuck the 6 speeds too.
 
brantb said:
very off topic in this thread, but are these people who want to fly for the airlines starting at 40-50 years old? Seems late to jump into that career.
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i'm interested at what pyleit has to say but i know from what i've seen its many ppl in there late 30s early 40s.


pilots are in demand... but i have a feeling it will be like the big nurseing demand awhile back. nobody makes the wages they claim whenever these we need workers now deals comes along.
 
WTF? said:
sounds like the canadian winters fucked his truck up;

however eating brakes is not something i have ever heard as a common issue with the platform, perhaps rusty/ corroded calipers/slides?
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I did brakes more than anualy in tgf tahoe but i live in the mounts and these thing just fucking go to the point your on the brakes more than the gas.

I just did the brakes on my new to me 04 2500 burban. Fun note, the 2500 rear brakes are the same as the 1500 front, i had a new set left over from the tahoe so that save some cash.
 
45acp said:
I'm typing this sitting in a '17 tahoe with 100k on it that's going to need a $5k 6L80 any day now. Not only fuck a 10 speed, but fuck the 6 speeds too.
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My brother just shelled out somewhere between $4-5k to rebuild and tune the 6l80 in his 99k mi 2017 Yukon XL that probably still has shiny paint in the receiver hitch; And he shopped pretty extensively for a better or more thrifty alternative. i had previously thought the 6 speeds reputation was somewhat overhyped on the internet akin to the 4l60e count the neutrals, but apparently its very real. :eek:
 
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