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DozerDan82

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Buddy and I were talking and he had to move a project he was hoping to flip. Offered it to me at his cost ($3,000 + towing to get it out of there)

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08 6.4L PO said it made some noise, parked it and a year later went to start and batteries were dead- buddy bought it like that. ~200k, standard ferd rust. He dumped two new batteries- it cranks but wont fire. He is potentially moving, and getting lots of prep work done at house so it is in his way. More or less asking me to absorb his investment. I would tend to think there is no way I could not recoup $3k out of this ? Even if the motor is junk- which it prob isn't.

He said a guy is coming tomorrow (has it listed at $5XXX), but not sure. I told him if that falls through to have it towed to my place so it is out of his way.

Did I just overcommit or can I let the wife know ha ha. :lmao:
 

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Leadfoot21 said:
I’d rather have a 6.0 than a 6.4 all day every day , if that tells you anything .
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Rennat_2006 said:
X2 on this.
6.0l's could be fixed and make for a pretty decent engine. 6.4l's are just junk.
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X whatever. Unless you are a Ford lover AND complete masochist...
6.4L trucks are best used for a vehicle to dump a better engine in (when you can due to emissions legality). It was literally the engine that killed the relationship between Navistar and Ford. Part of it was the 6.0L warranty issues but from what I understand, and even though Ford had begun development on the 6.7L, had the 6.4L shown Ford that Navistar was headed in the right direction they may have maintained their relationship. Let's face it, light truck diesel buyers like their powerplant to be associated with heavy-duty diesel trucks, the Navistar name on your engine was worth salvaging if they felt it could be done. It took Ford a while for them to garner any respect with their own engine and the development of the 6.7L wasn't cheap. Arguably the 6.4L killed most people's interest in the Ford platform as a serious late model diesel performance platform. In the truck pull, diesel drag race world it's basically all General and Mopar now.
 
I'd walk a very distinct path,
I do want a cclb fummins, i don't throw good money after bad, does the body and interior meet Standards for a fummins build? Rust included, is this worth keeping 20 years?

Buy it for 3k, get it home, geek out on 6.4 diag, borrow batteries from your tow rig, use used engine oil, your diag budget is $37 or $52 if you bill refreshments against it, I do :laughing:

If it runs, it's not long for this world, at any expense, so either dump it for 9k "no warranties expressed or otherwise"

Or, if its growing on you, you list the engine for sale "$4500 hear it run, no warranties expressed or otherwise " :laughing:


Then build your fummins.

That's it, all other paths lead to suicide
 
FWIW 3k was the going rate for a known blown presentable cclb 4wd 6.4 truck before clown world, clown world pricing caused those trucks to be towed to the shop for a $12k repair bill

I think we'll start to see them again as fuel goes up, trucks and employment come down

3k is very fair, but what you do with it from there is on you:flipoff2:
 
Projectjunkie said:
I'd walk a very distinct path,
I do want a cclb fummins, i don't throw good money after bad, does the body and interior meet Standards for a fummins build? Rust included, is this worth keeping 20 years?

Buy it for 3k, get it home, geek out on 6.4 diag, borrow batteries from your tow rig, use used engine oil, your diag budget is $37 or $52 if you bill refreshments against it, I do :laughing:

If it runs, it's not long for this world, at any expense, so either dump it for 9k "no warranties expressed or otherwise"

Or, if its growing on you, you list the engine for sale "$4500 hear it run, no warranties expressed or otherwise " :laughing:


Then build your fummins.

That's it, all other paths lead to suicide
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This... is the only plan that makes sense.
Projectjunkie said:
FWIW 3k was the going rate for a known blown presentable cclb 4wd 6.4 truck before clown world, clown world pricing caused those trucks to be towed to the shop for a $12k repair bill

I think we'll start to see them again as fuel goes up, trucks and employment come down

3k is very fair, but what you do with it from there is on you:flipoff2:
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I agree retard pricing is retard, but all things eventually fall. Locally much of the retard pricing is falling off on 1/2mil mile 2nd gens with rust and mid 90's PS trucks. Hell, there's a 200,000 something miles '04 6spd 4x4 duramax x-cab for sale right now for 7k and it's not even ugly! Yes, 'tard pricing still in effect on 15yo and newer stuff, but reality has set in on the older or shot stuff.
 
Projectjunkie said:
I'd walk a very distinct path,
I do want a cclb fummins, i don't throw good money after bad, does the body and interior meet Standards for a fummins build? Rust included, is this worth keeping 20 years?

Buy it for 3k, get it home, geek out on 6.4 diag, borrow batteries from your tow rig, use used engine oil, your diag budget is $37 or $52 if you bill refreshments against it, I do :laughing:

If it runs, it's not long for this world, at any expense, so either dump it for 9k "no warranties expressed or otherwise"

Or, if its growing on you, you list the engine for sale "$4500 hear it run, no warranties expressed or otherwise " :laughing:


Then build your fummins.

That's it, all other paths lead to suicide
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Kinda the plan, if I can make it run just flip it. If not toss it up online and move on with life.
 
Do you want a project that will most likely make you hate life and hopefully break even when you eventually dump it for the next sucker to try his luck on? Because that's what you're probably getting into.

If you know the engine is salvageable, that's one thing. But gambling on a 6.4 is never a good gamble. Consider it blown the F up at this point... Is it still worth $3500 to you?
 
Even if you get it started it's likely fucked up, 6.4s are giant piles of shit. They're good Fummins donors and parts trucks. I wouldn't put any more effort than a pair of hot batteries into getting it running. I don't think you can lose at 3k, you can sell the easy shit off it (Doors, axles, bed) and scrap the rest to make that back if you gotta.
 
TrikeKid said:
Even if you get it started it's likely fucked up, 6.4s are giant piles of shit. They're good Fummins donors and parts trucks. I wouldn't put any more effort than a pair of hot batteries into getting it running. I don't think you can lose at 3k, you can sell the easy shit off it (Doors, axles, bed) and scrap the rest to make that back if you gotta.
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True, he could easily part that thing out for $3k.

But does he really want to? Parting out a rig is such a giant pain in the dick. The worst part is dealing with the 100+ assholes who bug him about it, then the dozens of assholes who actually show up, then the smaller amount who actually buy something at a decent price. My time is worth more than that to me.
 
Yotota said:
True, he could easily part that thing out for $3k.

But does he really want to? Parting out a rig is such a giant pain in the dick. The worst part is dealing with the 100+ assholes who bug him about it, then the dozens of assholes who actually show up, then the smaller amount who actually buy something at a decent price. My time is worth more than that to me.
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That's why you pull the stuff that sells and scrap the rest on a late model rig.

have done a whole truck, but that was back in the glory days of forums so I had it posted in one place and it was old enough that I wasn't dealing with people too broke for junkyard parts.
 
If you don't have them, a laptop with ForScan and a good OBD-II USB or Bluetooth adapter will help you read whatever codes it has and run diagnostic tests to see what the computer thinks is wrong.

Aaron Z
 
I haven’t seen a 6.4 around here in many years, everyone got rid of them, the only place that would work on them was the dealer. Solid trucks, junk engines. Unless you plan on flipping it, or swapping engines, don’t plan on keeping that thing.
 
Mvanhelden said:
I haven’t seen a 6.4 around here in many years, everyone got rid of them, the only place that would work on them was the dealer. Solid trucks, junk engines. Unless you plan on flipping it, or swapping engines, don’t plan on keeping that thing.
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Good advise. Those 6.4's were absolute shit and thinking it's going to be an easy fix/flip is laughable at best. Hopefully guy looking at it before OP buys it and keeps OP from making a regrettable decision.
 
TrikeKid said:
That's why you pull the stuff that sells and scrap the rest on a late model rig.

have done a whole truck, but that was back in the glory days of forums so I had it posted in one place and it was old enough that I wasn't dealing with people too broke for junkyard parts.
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The tough part is that with the body rust, the big dollar parts like the bed and cab are devalued. Well maybe not as much in OP's neck of the woods.

If he has a few weekends to completely strip the truck including intact wiring harnesses, then space to store a complete truck worth of shit, then time and patience to sell it all, sure he can make $3k minus the engine. He can probably make $5-6k if he ebays all the good parts and ships them. But that's all time and stress.

DozerDan82 - if you're really feeling like making this work, bring some batteries and listen to the engine yourself. Then make the decision. If the idea of parting it out makes you happy, maybe take the gamble. If you're looking for a quick flip confirm whether or not the engine sounds like rocks in a coffee can.
 
Nothing to update, have not heard back from my guy. I assume it sold, based on he wanted it gone before the weekend and never heard back from him. I knew the 6.4 was a bastard child but had no idea the level of suck apparently it has.
 
We have one on the ranch. 170k miles. Absolute POS. Gallon of oil and water a day. It had the entire fuel system replaced 5 years ago to the tune of 12k. Failed fuel pump put glitter stem to stern. 9mpg empty..5 pulling. We aren’t putting one more cent into it. No oil changes, nothing. Hoping it dies. Meanwhile the 6.2 gasser keep rocking with double the mileage.
 
DozerDan82 said:
Nothing to update, have not heard back from my guy. I assume it sold, based on he wanted it gone before the weekend and never heard back from him. I knew the 6.4 was a bastard child but had no idea the level of suck apparently it has.
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You probably dodged a bullet on this one.
 
Stix said:
We have one on the ranch. 170k miles. Absolute POS. Gallon of oil and water a day. It had the entire fuel system replaced 5 years ago to the tune of 12k. Failed fuel pump put glitter stem to stern. 9mpg empty..5 pulling. We aren’t putting one more cent into it. No oil changes, nothing. Hoping it dies. Meanwhile the 6.2 gasser keep rocking with double the mileage.
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9MPG? A V10 will do that...

Aaron Z
 
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