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    Budget Tracker Build

    So is low tech not really hardcore stuff allowed here?

    I just picked up a clean rust free 94 tracker 2 door

    Plans are to make budget knock-off SxS for winter wheeling.

    Winch, sawzall wheel wells, ATV tires, locker in rear

    I live in the East TN mountains, tons and tons of trails to ride on, mostly atv / sxs so I want to keep this narrow

    Biggest issue I have is winters here are wet and the trails are muddy and clay, that is why I am thinking ATV tires.

    Who has run ATV tires, can I do a few miles on the road with them?

    Any builds like this I can read?

    Seems simple to me.

    #2
    Check out @YotaAtieToo's build, Sam I am. He is running SxS tires on his Samurai and had them on his old Tracker.

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      #3
      Don't forget that a lot of sxs's run on pavement also, I'm running the maxxis carnivores, which have a bad reputation for wearing quickly. I've driven a fair amount on pavement and they seem to be fine.

      @jtr @jrt? did it way before me, his faux 2 build on pbb is what you want to look at. He's running itp blackwaters and iirc has done a fair amount of pavement also.




      I have a pile of parts you NEED

      Seriously though, I have a ton of stuff that will work on your track kick. I don't want much for it, but don't want to toss it either.

      2" coil spacers and the longer struts and shocks to go with it.

      Spare CV's?

      Late model a arm's to make your rig wider and move tire forward?

      Toyota cv conversion kit?


      I know shipping will kill some of the deals, but like I said I don't want much for it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
        Don't forget that a lot of sxs's run on pavement also, I'm running the maxxis carnivores, which have a bad reputation for wearing quickly. I've driven a fair amount on pavement and they seem to be fine.

        @jtr @jrt? did it way before me, his faux 2 build on pbb is what you want to look at. He's running itp blackwaters and iirc has done a fair amount of pavement also.




        I have a pile of parts you NEED

        Seriously though, I have a ton of stuff that will work on your track kick. I don't want much for it, but don't want to toss it either.

        2" coil spacers and the longer struts and shocks to go with it.

        Spare CV's?

        Late model a arm's to make your rig wider and move tire forward?

        Toyota cv conversion kit?


        I know shipping will kill some of the deals, but like I said I don't want much for it.
        Yea you are pretty far from me and that is some heavy stuff.

        I am going to do a major amount of reading and come up with a game plan.

        I want to keep it as narrow as possible right now, we will see if that changes.

        I'll hit you up when I get it figured out.

        Thanks man

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          #5
          Originally posted by crispins View Post

          Yea you are pretty far from me and that is some heavy stuff.

          I am going to do a major amount of reading and come up with a game plan.

          I want to keep it as narrow as possible right now, we will see if that changes.

          I'll hit you up when I get it figured out.

          Thanks man
          The coil spacers and shocks/struts would probably be worth shipping, I'd take a 24 pack of beer for those

          The Toyota cv kit is also small, but if you're staying open front, it's not worth it.

          Post some details and or pics of this thing
          ​​​​​​

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            #6
            Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post

            The coil spacers and shocks/struts would probably be worth shipping, I'd take a 24 pack of beer for those

            The Toyota cv kit is also small, but if you're staying open front, it's not worth it.

            Post some details and or pics of this thing
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            it is nothing special, I assure you.

            Pretty clean start, $2k doesn't get you much of a Track-Kick around here, prices are high as hell.

            I wanted something that was not beat to hell already and this one looks pretty taken care of.

            The studded snow tires are unusual (I'm from teh South) I doubt they would work good for what I want.

            I read that whole thread on faux 2, gave me great direction.

            Looks like cutting the wheel wells will not be necessary, I plan on getting those same tires for mine.

            Thank you for that info!
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              #7
              Baller!

              That would be a $4500 rig here easy. Maybe more.

              Anything samurai is through the roof. The only reason I got mine was thanks to Lil,yota giving me a killer deal.

              You planning on the 4.24s in the tcase? Or just rock it as is?

              ​​​​​​​The one bummer about the 5 spd track kicks is they already have 5.13s, so there is basically no where to go to compensate for bigger tires in high range.

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                #8
                Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
                Baller!

                That would be a $4500 rig here easy. Maybe more.

                Anything samurai is through the roof. The only reason I got mine was thanks to Lil,yota giving me a killer deal.

                You planning on the 4.24s in the tcase? Or just rock it as is?

                The one bummer about the 5 spd track kicks is they already have 5.13s, so there is basically no where to go to compensate for bigger tires in high range.
                Well I am not sure about the t case, I will do some test runs and see how it does, I know the 8v lacks in power.

                If it needs them I will install them.

                I am hoping to keep this build under $5k total which will be pretty tight when tires and a winch are close to $1,500 by themselves.

                I will need to get the front bumper built unless I can find someones old one to buy as I do not have that ability.
                Last edited by crispins; 07-10-2020, 08:52 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by crispins View Post

                  Well I am not sure about the t case, I will do some test runs and see how it does, I know the 8v lacks in power.

                  If it needs them I will install them.

                  I am hoping to keep this build under $5k total which will be pretty tight when tires and a winch are close to $1,500 by themselves.

                  I will need to get the front bumper built unless I can find someones old one to buy as I do not have that ability.
                  What tires and winch are you looking at?

                  Tires are usually around $150 ea and a decent winch can be had for $300.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post

                    What tires and winch are you looking at?

                    Tires are usually around $150 ea and a decent winch can be had for $300.
                    tires I am looking at ITP blackwater evolution 30x10x15 which is $1,000 for 5 of them.

                    I was planning on a Badlands 9k which I think is about $350 or so


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by crispins View Post

                      tires I am looking at ITP blackwater evolution 30x10x15 which is $1,000 for 5 of them.

                      I was planning on a Badlands 9k which I think is about $350 or so

                      https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RK3DYS0...91812054244-20

                      $160 ea

                      I put that winch on my pos 4 door tracker, slow and heavy, but works.

                      For your little 2 door look at the 6k lb sxs winches.

                      I have a 6k wide drum viper for my Sami, it was $300 for the elite with synthetic rope, wireless remote, snatch block, universal mount, in cab switch and "handle bar switch" worked well on the talon buried in snow with the tracks, so it should work well on the samurai.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post

                        https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RK3DYS0..._7JtcFbVHTWT7G

                        $160 ea

                        I put that winch on my pos 4 door tracker, slow and heavy, but works.

                        For your little 2 door look at the 6k lb sxs winches.

                        I have a 6k wide drum viper for my Sami, it was $300 for the elite with synthetic rope, wireless remote, snatch block, universal mount, in cab switch and "handle bar switch" worked well on the talon buried in snow with the tracks, so it should work well on the samurai.
                        Some wheeling I will be the only vehicle out so i really want to go a little over size on the winch.

                        That is why i was leaning towards the 9k, if you think the 6k would be ok I would be happy to get that.

                        Which one would you recommend?

                        My first step is going to be to order the tires, get it lifted 2", and I guess weld the rear.

                        I know the lockers are cheap enough but I have never setup gears before and don't have anyone around here to help me with that.

                        Do have access to arc welder so thinking just glue the spiders together would work fine and be easy.

                        Am I wrong with that?

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                          #13
                          https://www.utvdirect.com/viper-elit...RoCr-MQAvD_BwE

                          This is the one I have.

                          I've only used it a handful of times, but seems to work well. In theory you should have plenty of pulling power using the 2x's your vehicle weight rule. Assuming you'll be around 2500 lbs.

                          Wilson put a 4k lb warn on his samurai and has been impressed with it.

                          If you want the overkill, I don't want to talk you out of it. I can't say "I've been using the sxs winch for years" but I really think the 6k is plenty.

                          I do carry a piece of winch rope for an extension and a snatch block just in case. But I do the same with my full size rigs and 10k winches.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by crispins View Post
                            Who has run ATV tires, can I do a few miles on the road with them?
                            .
                            My only concern with atv tires is sidewall strength. I've popped holes and seen a few cut on atvs alone. I'd carry a spare just incase

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gravy View Post

                              My only concern with atv tires is sidewall strength. I've popped holes and seen a few cut on atvs alone. I'd carry a spare just incase
                              It's no different than full size tires, some are weaker than others. Sxs tires use ply's for supposed toughness. 8 ply is the standard for sxs's and I think there are 10 ply tires also.

                              I have full faith in the carnivores. I put them on a 4 door 99 tracker, probably grossing over 3k, and took it to Fordyce. It was raining most of the time, and had no issues.

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