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    "built" zuk axles?

    Who's running "built" zuk axles?

    I'm going to be picking up a Sami soon, plan is to drop in my 2.0/auto/6.4 gears and then run the 32" sxs tires and beadlocks from the side shit.

    I have

    1 - 1st gen 4.62 rear axle
    1 - 2nd gen 4.62 rear axle
    1 - 2nd gen 4.88 rear axle
    1 - 2nd gen 4.88 front r&p
    2 - Sami rear axles
    2 - Sami front axles

    So I'm thinking I could get a hybrid rear and run the 4.88 chunk, then put the 4.88s in the Sami front

    Or run a whole trackick rear axle and have a ~6" wider hybrid front made. I'll do rcv's anyway, so custom lengths aren't much more.

    ​​​​​If I didn't have all these zuk parts, I wouldn't consider it, probably just run some toyota axles, but considering that, how expensive toyota axles are ($500+) and how cheap the custom housings are (~$400 ea) I think it would be fun to keep the zuk stuff.

    Is the bling zuk stuff a total waste of time for 32s?

    #2
    I have exactly what you want for a Samurai sitting on my shop floor.

    Mini truck front axle with 5.29's, HP E-locker, real deal longfield shafts/birfs, high steer setup with a drag link, set up for hydro assist and a 3 link. Complete hub to hub including track bar, calipers and braided lines.

    Rear axle has a Detroit, 5.29's, cromo axles of unknown brand, and the housing is offset to line up with a Sami T-case. Has a TG truss on it and is set up for a 4 link. Complete drum to drum with 1" spacers and braided brake lines.

    I bought Jim's (Shrockworks) Geo Tracker that had a build thread on the other site. He got busy with his company and It was never finished. Guy I bought it from tried to make it a buggy. He hacked up the body and frame and failed miserably. I tried to save it but got frustrated with all the hack and ended up cutting it up. I saved all the good stuff though.

    I'm like 90% sure these things are like new inside. Shrockworks guy built them, sold unfinished tracker to the hacker, who scabbed it together enough to move under it's own power onto a trailer, then I bought it.

    I have matching driveshafts, a complete PSC hydro assist kit with box, pump/mount, lines, cooler and resivoir sitting with fluid still in it, and the skid plate/link mount Jim at Shrockworks custom made for a 2dr Tracker.

    If you want this all this stuff I will make you a hell of a deal to get it all the fuck out of my life. I'm never going to use any of it.


    Pictures from his old thread....

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      #3
      Pics of the pile of hack I bought.....

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        #4
        $350?

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          #5
          Seriously though, I appreciate the offer. Unless it's stupid stupid cheap and I didn't have to drive 1500 miles to get them, I'll have to pass. I've been down the rabbit hole with a samurai before, and I'm trying to avoid it this time. I think the Toyota axles just make you want bigger tires, and longer wb, more power, ect. I'm really trying to stay with 32s.
          Last edited by YotaAtieToo; 06-12-2020, 11:59 PM.

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            #6
            Understandable. Just figured I'd throw it out there in case you were interested in going full retard right out of the gate.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SLOWPOKE693 View Post
              Understandable. Just figured I'd throw it out there in case you were interested in going full retard right out of the gate.
              I appreciate it

              If I was there is a set of 9" kinda local. D44 otters on the front, but rcv's double ended ram, all the bs, for a decent price. I'd love to throw some 6.50s in them and some 37s would be sweet.

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                #8
                If you're going to have a 2.0 with 32" stickies, I don't think you are wasting your time upgrading the stock stuff. I do think that you may end up on toyota axles anyway, so just keep that in mind. I had a fairly built pair of zook axles that I broke fairly regularly with a 1.6 on 32" Chinese mud tires. Stock sami thirds, spartan front, spool rear, trail gear chromo front shafts with 30 spline outers, stock rear shafts.

                Spools and rear shafts broke fairly often. With a trackick hybrid, you'll have a stronger diff.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DirtRoads View Post
                  If you're going to have a 2.0 with 32" stickies, I don't think you are wasting your time upgrading the stock stuff. I do think that you may end up on toyota axles anyway, so just keep that in mind. I had a fairly built pair of zook axles that I broke fairly regularly with a 1.6 on 32" Chinese mud tires. Stock sami thirds, spartan front, spool rear, trail gear chromo front shafts with 30 spline outers, stock rear shafts.

                  Spools and rear shafts broke fairly often. With a trackick hybrid, you'll have a stronger diff.
                  32s aren't stickies. But I'd like some 33 or 35 stickies. I'll also have an auto, so that should help. I don't really like to hammer in the rocks, I ran out 37 red labels on my old samurai with stock fj80 birfs and didn't break too much.

                  I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole with toyota axles. I've already done it. I really want to keep this as a small sxs type rig. Bigger tires, longer wb, more weight, ect just make it worse for that.

                  The Sami chromo stuff is cheap enough to give it a shot.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post

                    32s aren't stickies. But I'd like some 33 or 35 stickies. I'll also have an auto, so that should help. I don't really like to hammer in the rocks, I ran out 37 red labels on my old samurai with stock fj80 birfs and didn't break too much.

                    I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole with toyota axles. I've already done it. I really want to keep this as a small sxs type rig. Bigger tires, longer wb, more weight, ect just make it worse for that.

                    The Sami chromo stuff is cheap enough to give it a shot.

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                    Do it, it'll hold up to 32s. 35" stickies is certainly going to be pushing it but you might get lucky if you're careful.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DirtRoads View Post

                      Do it, it'll hold up to 32s. 35" stickies is certainly going to be pushing it but you might get lucky if you're careful.
                      I'm tempted to see if I can fit a 27 spline toyota sized shaft in the tracker diff and do a full float offset track kick rear with double spline 27 spline shafts. I figured I could just make the Toyota spider gears fit and weld them in. I know from the Toyota CV's in the front that that's about the biggest shaft that will fit through the spindles. I'll have to see if it's significantly larger than the 26 spline zuk stuff.

                      The other idea was to use the trail gear offset toyota 30 spline rear shafts and do the same with the spider gears in the diff.

                      I know even my slightly younger self would have said "just get a Toyota rear" , but I already have so many of these parts, and I really want to stay with small tires.

                      If it doesn't work out, then I'll just have beefier axles for the kid buggy I'll build some day.

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                        #12
                        I was running 33×12.5 biggers on this thing and would break front shafts fairly often regardless of what type of terrain I was wheeling. I dropped down to the 31s in this picture and was ok for almost a year until I took it to fordyce where I broke a front right away. The replacement lasted about a year until I broke another front at hollister on a wide open hill climb run bouncing the front of it in the air. Immediately after breaking the shaft I cartwheeled it down the dill and thoroughly destroyed the entire truck.
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                          #13
                          Funny, I had 33 boggers on my samurai, but after the Toyota axles.

                          I'm hoping that the narrower and lighter sxs tires will make a big difference. Kinda like how Toyota guys seem to get away with 39.5" Iroks, but seem to break on almost any other 40.

                          I also don't really do the full throttle hopping off the ground thing. Since I hate trail repairs

                          Wilson has had 35x12.5s on his zuk axles for over a year with good luck. He said he's been trying to break it on the rock pile in his yard, but some how holds together.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
                            Funny, I had 33 boggers on my samurai, but after the Toyota axles.

                            I'm hoping that the narrower and lighter sxs tires will make a big difference. Kinda like how Toyota guys seem to get away with 39.5" Iroks, but seem to break on almost any other 40.

                            I also don't really do the full throttle hopping off the ground thing. Since I hate trail repairs

                            Wilson has had 35x12.5s on his zuk axles for over a year with good luck. He said he's been trying to break it on the rock pile in his yard, but some how holds together.
                            I think if you decide to stay samurai axles you better just buy rcvs from the start. The only reason I went regular chromos on this one is 29s are as big as I plan on running. When it was running I was able to drive it as dumb as I possibly could and not break. I really need to put the computer back in it and figure things out
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2big bronco View Post

                              I think if you decide to stay samurai axles you better just buy rcvs from the start. The only reason I went regular chromos on this one is 29s are as big as I plan on running. When it was running I was able to drive it as dumb as I possibly could and not break. I really need to put the computer back in it and figure things out
                              Rcv's would be the plan, it's not that much more anyway.

                              What about rear shafts? Are the gorilla or whatever ones pretty tough?

                              I'm surprised no one makes a kit to use bigger diameter shafts, 1" shafts with the 9" vitara 3rd seems silly.

                              I might try and see if I can weld some toyota side gears in a vitara 3rd.
                              Last edited by YotaAtieToo; 06-17-2020, 12:35 AM.

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