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    House and barn build

    I was going to start this on Pirate, but I already like this place more.
    This is likely going to be a long thread, and continue long after construction is complete, because with 49 acres does it ever really end?

    Anyways, this is the barn I had built at my parents house 5 years ago...
    https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/40...build.1927362/

    Little back story, after searching 3 years for a house with land or land to build on I finally found more than what I was looking for. 49 acres, 35 min from work on a dead end road, almost all woods, and hilly for all the fun. 🤘

    I purchased the land Aug of 18,
    Summer of 19 I had a logging company come in and do some slective cutting to help with house funds.
    Dec of 19 we started clearing for the build.

    We started with plan from Texas Barndominiums and changed it to work for us. I always wanted a house built in a pole barn but know from a family standpoint its probably not the most ideal.

    The house is 2400 sq ft built on a slab 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, open floor plan, 10 ft ceilings, metal barn siding and roof. The barn is going to be 48x60 and will be connected to the house with a 14ft wide breezeway.

    Everyone likes pictures, so I'll try to keep them coming.

    As of right now, the driveway is in (about 800 ft long) the building site is leveled, the septic area is cleared and I just got the well permit this morning, septic should be tomorrow, with the actual building permit to follow shortly.

    The plan is to break ground on the 30th to dig the foundation.

    I have a ton of pictures of whats happened so far that I'll get uploaded later today.


    #2
    Picture dump...
    This is at the road looking up what is now the driveway.


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    After all the brush was down looking from the top down.

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    Once the trees started coming down.

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    What better time to start than in the middle of winter right?

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    House area at the top of the hill getting cleared.

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    Up until this point I did all the work myself except one day I had a couple guys from work come help me move some logs and dig some stumps out on the driveway.

    At this point, the build area was ready for the dozer.
    Originally we didn't think much would have to be cut to get the area flat, after days with a dozer we found that to be wrong.
    about 80% of the area is cut, and 20% is fill.

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    Cut for the house and barn done!

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    Driveway geo going down.
    The driveway has 4" of #2 stone and 4" of 304 stone.

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    I didn't get many pictures of the gravel going down.

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    I wanted to get some gravel down in the shop area for staging material and trying to keep everything as clean as possible.
    Project foreman checking my work.

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    The road is really narrow, and the gate the previous owner had up wasn't wide enough to get big trucks and trailers in, I'm not messing with moving it, so we just added a 2nd gate, and since it didn't match the original we got to paint bolt of them...
    Anyway, it looks better now.

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    Everything is finally starting to get green again.
    Now I just need it to stop raining so everything can dry up.

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      #3
      House plans, like I said in the first post, it was a design off Texas Barndominiums that we changed.
      Originally it was a 4 bedroom 2500 sq ft plan.
      We took it down to 2400 and made it 48' wide to match the barn.
      This is the final floor plan.
      We didn't do any cathedral ceilings, but did do 10 ft ceilings in the entire house.

      Depending on time and where we come in with allowances will determine what we try to do ourselves.
      As of right now, it's just the barn doors, the coax (if we ever get internet out here), landscaping, exterior drainage and some misc other things.

      As for counter tops, we want concrete, but the prices I have been getting have been all over the place and I'm wondering if something a little more forgiving might be a better option.

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        #4
        Going to follow this one along. Real close on pulling the trigger on 135 acres and doing the same on a smaller scale. 40x60 with 800 sf being an apartment.

        Nice looking piece of land. What part of the country?

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          #5
          Subscribed ! What are the snow loads in your area

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            #6
            Originally posted by Subzer008 View Post
            Going to follow this one along. Real close on pulling the trigger on 135 acres and doing the same on a smaller scale. 40x60 with 800 sf being an apartment.

            Nice looking piece of land. What part of the country?
            Thanks! I've had this plan in my head for years and its finally going to happen!

            Central Ohio, about 45 min east of Columbus.

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              #7
              Originally posted by KrustyTJ View Post
              Subscribed ! What are the snow loads in your area
              I honestly don't even know, I know the trusses had to be sent in for engineering for the barn and house.
              this year we didn't get shit for snow, but its hit or miss here.

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                #8
                Originally posted by 97xj4.0 View Post

                I honestly don't even know, I know the trusses had to be sent in for engineering for the barn and house.
                this year we didn't get shit for snow, but its hit or miss here.
                I had my pole barn put built a few years ago and went with a local builder and lumber yard based on my townships requirements. I did shop around on line and the engineered plans from the lumber supplier fits my area wind and snow loads vary from state to state. I'd be curious as to what the snow load would be on a pole barn engineered/built in texas vs northern states from what I've seen on google my area is 25 S.E Michigan my property up north is 50 and its about 3.5 hrs away Central Ohio is 20 and Texas 5. There is some carts online that show different conditions light/dry , wet/heavy, ice , water design load lb/sq ft.

                I have a co-worker that purchased house plans online and there not engineered for Michigan he was just asking me yesterday if I knew anyone that could help him out he closes on his property soon not sure if he's going to try to get a refund or not but probably his best bet. I like what your build I'll be following along would like to something similar up north.

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                  #9
                  I would avoid the concrete countertops, a guy that does them told me they stain easy unless epoxy coated. Depending on your style would stainless work? I have it in my kitchen mostly because it was cheap and easy but came out nice and is a great durable surface.

                  Not sure if I missed it but what type of flooring? I'm a big fan of the polished concrete I did I'm my house. Click image for larger version
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                    #10
                    Quartz is really the only option for counter tops IMO, they're by far the most durable.

                    Also, a couple comments on the floor plan:
                    1) The mechanical right beside the bedrooms will be annoying when the heat/water are running. Consider moving them, possibly next to the closet in the play room or where the pantry is or even just move it to the right so it's aligned with the closet which acts as a sound break. Then you could extend the master bedroom right out to the kitchen and gain a lot of useful square footage rather than a wasted hallway. Could even then do his/hers closets with the extra space.
                    2) Dual sinks, while trendy, are pointless unless they are separate vanities too.
                    3) Sink/dishwasher on the island is fine if you're good at staying on top of dishes, but means your mess is always right in the middle of everything. Consider flipping with stove.
                    4) Closet should be off the master bedroom, not off the bathroom.
                    5) Closet on the playroom should be full width, you'll not regret having extra storage for kids toys or whatever else.

                    Otherwise, I do like the overall layout

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by KrustyTJ View Post

                      I had my pole barn put built a few years ago and went with a local builder and lumber yard based on my townships requirements. I did shop around on line and the engineered plans from the lumber supplier fits my area wind and snow loads vary from state to state. I'd be curious as to what the snow load would be on a pole barn engineered/built in texas vs northern states from what I've seen on google my area is 25 S.E Michigan my property up north is 50 and its about 3.5 hrs away Central Ohio is 20 and Texas 5. There is some carts online that show different conditions light/dry , wet/heavy, ice , water design load lb/sq ft.

                      I have a co-worker that purchased house plans online and there not engineered for Michigan he was just asking me yesterday if I knew anyone that could help him out he closes on his property soon not sure if he's going to try to get a refund or not but probably his best bet. I like what your build I'll be following along would like to something similar up north.
                      I'll have to check my plans Tuesday when I get to work.
                      20-25 sounds right. I know the house trusses at 24 OC and the barn are 48 OC. I had a local engineer do the final house plans so they better be right haha.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dethmachinefab View Post
                        I would avoid the concrete countertops, a guy that does them told me they stain easy unless epoxy coated. Depending on your style would stainless work? I have it in my kitchen mostly because it was cheap and easy but came out nice and is a great durable surface.

                        Not sure if I missed it but what type of flooring? I'm a big fan of the polished concrete I did I'm my house. Click image for larger version
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                        I love the look of them, but I have heard from a few people that they are hard to keep looking nice. I also know concrete does 2 things, gets hard and cracks... cracks in the counters would drive me crazy.
                        Your stainless looks nice that might be an option for us.

                        Floors are going to be mostly hardwood with carpet in the bedrooms and play room. We thought about doing ground and sealed concrete, but I was worried about how cold it would be in the winter without radiant heat.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SomeGuy View Post
                          Quartz is really the only option for counter tops IMO, they're by far the most durable.

                          Also, a couple comments on the floor plan:
                          1) The mechanical right beside the bedrooms will be annoying when the heat/water are running. Consider moving them, possibly next to the closet in the play room or where the pantry is or even just move it to the right so it's aligned with the closet which acts as a sound break. Then you could extend the master bedroom right out to the kitchen and gain a lot of useful square footage rather than a wasted hallway. Could even then do his/hers closets with the extra space.
                          2) Dual sinks, while trendy, are pointless unless they are separate vanities too.
                          3) Sink/dishwasher on the island is fine if you're good at staying on top of dishes, but means your mess is always right in the middle of everything. Consider flipping with stove.
                          4) Closet should be off the master bedroom, not off the bathroom.
                          5) Closet on the playroom should be full width, you'll not regret having extra storage for kids toys or whatever else.

                          Otherwise, I do like the overall layout
                          I like the idea of moving the mechanical room to the right and extending the master all the way out and removing the hallway, but I also like the barrier between the living area and the bedroom
                          I wanted to keep it as centrally located as a could for ease of heating.
                          Luckily the gf is good at cleaning up, so the kitchen is almost always clean!
                          It would be pretty easy to change the closet access from the bathroom to the bedroom. I think with the separate toilet room it won't be that bad though.
                          We are planning to have a TV in the cutout area in the playroom with a shelf in under it.

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                            #14
                            My parents have been having issues with animals getting under the porch of the barn we built at their house recently. First possums then ground hogs. I took the mini out there, dug up around the entire porch, put another board on, and back filled it higher.
                            They also had issues with a couple of the gutters not working well. I ran new drain lines while I was there.
                            They has a large tree cut down a few weeks ago and it seemed like a great time to dig the stump out, so that happened too.

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                              #15
                              Today I mowed the one grass area we have for the first time this year, it was long to say the least.
                              Last year one of the areas stayed really wet, this year it looks like a new spring has shown up. I have steady running water running down the hill, across the entire grass area and into the woods on the other side.

                              Everything is at the building department for the building permit, already have the well and septic and the loan closing is Friday. If all goes well, I should be digging the foundation next weekend!

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