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posford said:

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you see lots of room
I see and endless sideways shuffle trying to move around

As someone in the dreaming stage of building a ~25' x ~50' shop with 16' walls for an upstairs "storage area" that's about 25x25, it's quite easy to get estimates on metal buildings, but I've not had much luck getting estimates on stick framed builds. Everyone wants deposits to draw up plans and submit stuff to the city... I just want rough numbers.

Steel buildings of this size are roughly 35-50k and I'd be responsible for the interior framing.

Does anyone have any rough comparisons between steel buildings and traditional framed buildings?

Gordon-B said:

As someone in the dreaming stage of building a ~25' x ~50' shop with 16' walls for an upstairs "storage area" that's about 25x25, it's quite easy to get estimates on metal buildings, but I've not had much luck getting estimates on stick framed builds. Everyone wants deposits to draw up plans and submit stuff to the city... I just want rough numbers.

Steel buildings of this size are roughly 35-50k and I'd be responsible for the interior framing.

Does anyone have any rough comparisons between steel buildings and traditional framed buildings?

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build yourself?
that should be easy to run the numbers on that just for supplies

I build a 36x60 pole building by myself, as in zero help from anyone else. easy peasy with a family member or a friend to help

45acp said:

At one point I had 2 car garage, 2 car carport, a 12x20 shed and a 30x110 shop. Never had a problem with garage clutter at that place.

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I doubled my garage/shop space when I moved here 5 years ago. And I've tripled how much **** I have in that time too.

bgaidan said:

I doubled my garage/shop space when I moved here 5 years ago. And I've tripled how much **** I have in that time too.

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The worst was moving from all of that, to a single 30x40.

I had purged the shop a few months before and had room for days. We move here and I've got **** stacked to the ceiling and no room to park anything inside.

I would have rather lost a family member than lose that shop.

SomeGuyFromOlympia said:

build yourself?
that should be easy to run the numbers on that just for supplies

I build a 36x60 pole building by myself, as in zero help from anyone else. easy peasy with a family member or a friend to help

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I'd like it to be done some time this decade so doing it myself just isn't an option unfortunately.

Gordon-B said:

I'd like it to be done some time this decade so doing it myself just isn't an option unfortunately.

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don't rat your work ethics out or anything

Well the house is built, still doing **** around that, ****in A I feel like thats going to be forever though. Moving onto garage things.

Going to use an inheritance to hopefully do this all in cash without getting into our other savings, so I have a real budget to work with and attempt to stick to.

Still planning 30x40x12, not solid on the back garage door as its likely facing into pretty direct woods, I'll see where I end up after thinning more trees. 20x12 door on the front side.

Got told the city won't let me build a garage over 600sqft without a frost wall. Started getting real numbers on concrete. $11k slab, $21k frost wall. Seems like I can get a "shed" permit for over 600sqft with an engineered slab, no frost wall. So maybe its a tractor shed I'm building?

I got a concrete buddy (who turned down doing a 12x24 patio, doesn't like flatwork?) who is adamant about doing a frost wall (its only a little more he says) yet the numbers I'm getting is tripling my concrete needs.

Getting some numbers on pole building and steel structure that are current. I had gotten a quote back a few months ago on a pole barn kit that I thought was high, so working with them to see what kind of real numbers we can sort out. Waiting on the steel guy.

Spoke to a friend next town over, he said when he did his quonset style the town had said he needed a frost wall, the company that was selling the quonset supplied a stamped engineered slab drawing and the town 'had' to accept that. So if that is the case, the slab versus frost wall isn't an argument.

I get that it will be a ton stronger as a frost wall, but a properly done slab should be fine for a 30x40 steel building?

Got a quote back last night. $40k in concrete. $20k in doors. $14k in spray foam insulation. No price on building.

I need to do the stupid thing and call into planning and ask about the footing BS.

Or get them to sign off on a pole barn and float the floor in after.

Have you played around with the Menards Barn Builder at all?
It looks like you're in New Hampster, so you'd have to do a bit of traveling to get to your closest Menards, but it could be worth it.
It's also a good way to see what features add and subtract from your price.

Are you still an adjacent property owner on the big property and can classifiy it as AG or something?

bad zuki said:

Are you still an adjacent property owner on the big property and can classifiy it as AG or something?

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Oh I'm for sure AG zoned and using that to my advantage.

Called the city yesterday, "need to send the building inspector an email" ok, then rattles off an email address. ****in A lady give me a second, or a goddamn phone number.

Sent off an email explaining my 'tractor shed' dilemma and waiting for a response

No news from the city.

Reached out to a dude I sorta knew years ago. Told him what I got quoted for concrete "thats ****in retahded guy, lemme calla dude and get back atcha" $14k for the frost walls, $7500 for the floor, no dirt work. Thats a lot more reasonable.

Pushing forward toward a pole barn by him, he built a 40x60 with attic trusses for the guy who did the dirt work for the house, supposed to go check that out tonight and BS with him