Have riden an H1 or H2? The frames had the rigidity of wet spaghetti.Needs two more cylinders, cooling fins.
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xr=pinnacle? maybe not. but ask jimmy how many bajas the platform won? or mx ***les? etc. but thats not really the point is it? my current stable of 4 bikes includes only 1 xr. a little 50 i bought new in '01 for my kids to ride. two ktms, an old 640 adv and a 500exc (with a rekluse in it) and an africa twin 1100. i dearly miss my ol 650 and have borrowed a buddys every now and then to reminisce, but it doesnt take long to get back on the 500, its better in almost every way. so you missed the mark on your diss.Ah yes, the guy who thinks the pinnacle of dirt biking is Honda XRs is going to wax to us about how we need to go back to caveman times for not liking crutch parts that have more disadvantages than advantages.
Fitting.
the point im trying to make, is i dont give a **** what you ride or how you run the gear box. but the hate the rekluse gets around here is unfounded. the vast majority of gncc champions run them. supercross bikes run them.
YotaAtieToo
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Might end up with mostly green fleet. Going to pick up a kdx110 with the clutch to go along with the current kx65 for the little guys.
Also thought about the kx112 for my oldest.
Might end up with mostly green fleet. Going to pick up a kdx110 with the clutch to go along with the current kx65 for the little guys.
Also thought about the kx112 for my oldest.
Are you implying an XR has won an MX ***le??
Also SX bikes may run a rekluse brand clutch but they are not one of the auto clutches
I could see a Rekluse for hard enduro. Still wouldn't run one on a bike without a kicker. You haven't lived till you've cut off some barbwire to jump a buddies KTM with a dead battery, Rekluse and no kicker.....
Also don't get the BRP love. I found nothing great about that bike. Shortest time I've ever owned a bike.
Also don't get the BRP love. I found nothing great about that bike. Shortest time I've ever owned a bike.
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Lol, I was about 14 years old and weighed about 150, it was all I had to kick that thing back thenmy 500 was one of the easiest bikes to start that I've ever had.
Hell Destry himself will tell you the only reason it was dominant in the desert was because it started faster than anything else and could win bomb starts, then check out with the raw power.
If you broke a knee on a kx500, you were doing it wrong
Yes. UKI GT380. Frames, brakes, steering, overall handling far superior to the KawiKwais but down on power. Mild state of tune. ALSO put about 30,000 miles on Uki 750. So is this bike coming to the USA or BS ?
Yeah about that. Electric start put Harley Davidson on map. Ha Ha. Try kick starting a 1,200 cc of cold, carburated just slightly worn ignition points and slopped timing by jumping on that bitch kick start. **** that. They kick back.. Real ****ing hard. Way way harder than any 2-stroke possibly can. Probably kept all the queebs and wanna bes off. Kept the sales a joke. Electric start hit with the Honda 350/750 and Japan made it work. Harley followed. Triumph and BSA went away and leaked oil in a silent dark death. Harley and Hollywood. $$$$$$.
Superminis are badass and usually have a better power to weight ratio than a fullsize 125. Depending on how gnarly your oldest is, it'll start letting him keep up with you in some places and it'll catch you off guard
I'd love to see the XR that won an MX ***le. As far as Baja ***les, I'm aware. I have a Campbell spec 650 in my garage that I bought from our local ex-Baja racer.
It was a friendly play on your username and the
was supposed to tip you off to that. Oops.All 3 of those bikes are badass. I had an 02 640 Six Days in college and loved that bike.
GNCC and SX champions are running the aftermarket manual clutch packs by rekluse. TorqDrive, I think they're called? You will not find a top level rider in any discipline running an auto-clutch. Full stop. They take too much control away from the rider to be viable at high levels.
Gots_a_sol
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People are saying their dealers are taking deposits on them already so seems like it.
I'll be curious to see actual pics of the bike out in the world, everything so far just looks like computer generated images.
I'm only brand loyal so far as to say **** KTM and family so I could see buying one of these. Used. After 2 or 3 years
They seem handier than they are. Every time I've tried to hop a log or splatter over a jersey barrier with one, the clutch slipping when it shouldnt be throws off my equilibrium and ****s me all up.
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I own 2. One to dunk on my BDR buddies that have 650Ls, and the one I posted pics of above.
I think they're just a relic of a bygone era. That bike is absolutely incredible at bombing two track roads, flying at 90-100 on gravel, and soaking up small chop and rocks.
It's way too heavy and piggy to be properly viable in things like silt pits, whoops, and fluffy sand, so I have to assume that the only reason they won anything is that the Baja and BITD were much different in the era before trophy trucks were objectively better machines.
For dual sporting in the desert ****hole I call home though? A KTM 500 kicks its ass in overall capability, but the feeling of the big XR is something I cant really recreate.
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"Hard Enduro" (tight steep technical terrain for those of us who don't race) is the last place you want an auto clutch. A good manual clutch makes all the difference in the world when you're trying to pivot turn through a 12" wide switchback up a 45° rocky/rooty slope. Wheelspin gets you nowhere on trails like that.
KTM clutches are designed to be abused and on uphill sections, I barely even touch my brakes - I just slip the clutch to hold the bike in place. This is what the majority of technical Enduro riders do.
The biggest difference of opinion for clutches is 99% caused by different terrain and riding styles. If someone never rode steep gnarly tech trails, they would likely be okay with an auto clutch. But even then, I personally want to pull the lever because I'm riding to engage my brain and drown out all the everyday life noise.
I also agree that the new KX will likely need clutch upgrades. One place there the Japanese bikes have always sucked is their clutches, from a durability standpoint.
Gots_a_sol
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Seems it will have a similar clutch style to the orange brand's belleville set up. Would like to see an exploded diagram of it.
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2.25 gallon tank 
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ya i get it, the play off the user name. just dont get the hate those clutches bring. its almost boomerish attitude!
It was a friendly play on your username and the
All 3 of those bikes are badass. I had an 02 640 Six Days in college and loved that bike.
hopefully that doesnt summons arse into the mix. that 650r is badass too. 
I had one back in the mid 2000's along side my L and I hated kicking that thing. so I dont lust after wanting another back. you're correct about the 500, it shines just about every where.
Gots_a_sol
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2.25 gallon tank
2025 300 XCW tank size: 2.4g (9.0L)
I feel like some of y'all are trying to just find things to bitch about on a bike you ain't buying anyway
I do get that with the perimeter frame an Exxon Valdez sized tank is unlikely. The IMS tank for the '26 Kx450 is 2.9 gallons so I'm sure they will make a similar sized one for this bike when it comes out.
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No ****? Guess I havent looked at specs in a while. my '13 and also the sherco are around 2.8 gallons IIRC. Thats easy enough to burn up...
I feel like some of y'all are trying to just find things to bitch about on a bike you ain't buying anyway
No not really. Just looking at the specs and noticed it had a small tank. It'll be a neat bike..if its worth a ****.
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Last place you'd want a Rekluse. Whenever you need to hold the bike, pivot turn, or need control they slip at the least opportune times.
They work best for old man riding, cruising down the easy trails with a rider who thinks a little clutch slip on a wet setup will burn it up like it's a 72 Chevy.
Are you implying an XR has won an MX ***le??
Also SX bikes may run a rekluse brand clutch but they are not one of the auto clutches
There's a few running the Rekluse. They can get away with it because of the RPM they're running vs the engagement point. For them it's anti-stall, and they're still manually activating the clutch for normal riding.
Seems it will have a similar clutch style to the orange brand's belleville set up. Would like to see an exploded diagram of it.
Yeah, I saw the Belleville spring which is a big improvement. It will also need a steel basket and good plates and the rest of the wizardry that makes a good clutch setup.
redneckengineered
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When you said you had a 500 MXC my ears perked up until you posted that hog. I rode a 1987 500 for years just like this one, it was a nasty beast. Left side start and all. In fact, almost all my experience after I outgrew the minis was on KTM 2 stroke big bores. 300, 360, 380, 440, 500. It's in my blood. Had a 250 for a bit but that didn't last long.ya i get it, the play off the user name. just dont get the hate those clutches bring. its almost boomerish attitude!
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read it again, i said Exc. Ive not ridden the older katooms so I could be missing out. i used to ride strictly red, then about 06/07 I rode a buddies 300xcw after a harescramble. I had finished the race on my cr250r and was flabber'd at how much better the xcw was. So i went and bought a new 08 the next week. Ive owned half a dozen new 300 xcw's over the years and ultimately landed on this 500 when a different buddy wanted to trade. since my kids are grown we havent ridden much for single track riding in awhile and the 500 better suits how/where i ride now.
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Agreed! I do love my '91, though. I don't care that it doesn't come with lights, but that's what's needed to be street legal, so I wish it had them.
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I caught it and figured it was a 4 stroke but not everyone out there is accurate with the KTM 3 letter designations (hard to blame them) so you never know exactly what bike someone is referring to until you see it.
We've been discussing it a bit in the bike group.
My best guess, there's no top level motocross racing class limiting the displacement to 250cc anymore, and KTM 300s taking the world by storm for the last 2 decades has bigger displacements becoming the norm for smokers.
Probably similar to all the dorky displacements that Beta offers. Pick hp and low end torque goals and work the displacement backwards from there.
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between the 350 and now this 327. I could see ktm saying hold my beer Then again considering the new ownership an all..maybe not
Then again considering the new ownership an all..maybe notHold my typhoid water?between the 350 and now this 327. I could see ktm saying hold my beer
Hold my curry?
Hold my river sludge?
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between the 350 and now this 327. I could see ktm saying hold my beer
If they brought back the 380 with a counter balancer, I'd grab a new one... In husky form
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No displacement rules in vet classes, no real good reason to market it to supercross.
Beta 350 2t are showing up more and more in the vet classes and giving the 450s less reason to exit outside the very top of the sport.
