"For target practice" ammo

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Looking at somre 9mm Nato FMJ ammo, says "for target practice"

is this just some standard BS to call FMJ rounds,.or is this **** ammo that should not be used for battle, self defence, etc?
 
It’s due to the fact that fmj 9mm will penetrate 30 inches of gelatin, hence the for target use. It will still kill people obviously. The issue is over penetration. It’s most likely a “cover your ass” thing for the manufacturer.
 
Its just cheap ball ammo. Yall realize people with guns were killing other people when ammo was literally little balls? You dont need super duper fancy hollow point talon people cutters to stop a threat. Thats just like most fishing lures. There made to catch fisherman not fish. Those $60 dollar a box 9mm manstoppers are for dumbasses afraid of their own shadow. The only thing theyre actually designed for is separating morons from their cash.
 
Stuck said:
. Those $60 dollar a box 9mm manstoppers are for dumbasses afraid of their own shadow. The only thing theyre actually designed for is separating morons from their cash.
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My favorite part about those. Is how the 20 round boxes are more than the 50 round boxes of the same ammo :laughing:
 
I thought so too, just wanted to make sure I wasnt buying some useless ammo. Looked same to me but the wording threw me off.

Guess my **** was made for 9mm nato not luger do thats what I gotta try next
 
Steve300xcw said:
I'm goona go out on a limb and say his berretta's still wont run with it :laughing:
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last time I shot it did better, maybe didnt even jam, but its been a year. saw some youtube videos and this nato stuff came up, so I want to buy some to try, since two of mine sre on my ccw list

god damn usp45 have never jammed on me in 20 years of shooting whatever **** I put through them. Oh well.
 
How many rounds do you actually have down them? One of my M&P's took a bit before it broke it. I hadnt really ran into that issue before.
 
300-400?

what i read is, some hot rounds were occasionally blowing up the regular 92fs slides, so the brigs were made with a substantially beefier slide, but I did not think or know that this might have come at a price of disliking weak rounds

dumb assumption, but i thought new guns were supposed to function properly without a break in? I mean how do you hand them out during war and expect to get "broken in" when a jam of any kind might = life, seems kind of a fail
 
Yea I dunno. Think sometimes ones just a bit rougher than the rest. Owned 5 or 6 M&P's and never a bobble except for one of them. And it took a while before you could make it through a mag or two. And then some guns just dont like certain ammo. My CZ P01 will not run on steel case anything :laughing:
 
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9mm +p is ****ing stupid. It’s like 60 fps faster than standard pressure ammo.
 
Aisin said:
9mm +p is ****ing stupid. It’s like 60 fps faster than standard pressure ammo.
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But but but but according to all the online experts +p 9mm is equivalent or mo bettah than .40!!!
 
have you tried different weight boolits?
I have a pistol that refuses to reliably cycle anything that isn't 147 grains.
shoot all you want of some cheap 147 ball.
put a mag of 124 or 115 in there and it's gonna jam before you finish it, even hot self defense ****. Not 147, get ****ed.
 
I've got a bunch of Sterling 9mm, I believe it should be rated -P-, not labelled as target (or anything, for that matter). Everything I have cycles just fine, however, and it is a hoot for rapid follow-up shots because of the greatly reduced recoil and price...
 
Stuck said:
Its just cheap ball ammo. Yall realize people with guns were killing other people when ammo was literally little balls? You dont need super duper fancy hollow point talon people cutters to stop a threat. Thats just like most fishing lures. There made to catch fisherman not fish. Those $60 dollar a box 9mm manstoppers are for dumbasses afraid of their own shadow. The only thing theyre actually designed for is separating morons from their cash.
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Gotta strongly disagree there Fed. There are numerous cases of people surviving multiple pistol wounds, and staying in the fight, think 50 cent. I can almost guarantee you that these are hood rats shooting white box they got at Walmarts. FBI and multiple LEA's around the world have done studies that prove HP's, especially bonded HP's, are more effective. All that being said, I have FMJ's in my stash at a 50:1 ratio for practice vs. my carry ammo (Golddots).
 
Stuck said:
But but but but according to all the online experts +p 9mm is equivalent or mo bettah than .40!!!
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That's 2 jiggities better than 45:shaking:
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Roc Doc said:
Gotta strongly disagree there Fed. There are numerous cases of people surviving multiple pistol wounds, and staying in the fight, think 50 cent. I can almost guarantee you that these are hood rats shooting white box they got at Walmarts. FBI and multiple LEA's around the world have done studies that prove HP's, especially bonded HP's, are more effective. All that being said, I have FMJ's in my stash at a 50:1 ratio for practice vs. my carry ammo (Golddots).
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^^ This is correct. The damage from pistol rounds isn’t just the holes poked, it’s the hydrostatic shock. The faster the bullet slows down by expanding the more energy transferred.

But I’m not volunteering to stand in front of FMJ rounds either :laughing:
 
Roc Doc said:
Gotta strongly disagree there Fed. There are numerous cases of people surviving multiple pistol wounds, and staying in the fight, think 50 cent. I can almost guarantee you that these are hood rats shooting white box they got at Walmarts. FBI and multiple LEA's around the world have done studies that prove HP's, especially bonded HP's, are more effective. All that being said, I have FMJ's in my stash at a 50:1 ratio for practice vs. my carry ammo (Golddots).
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I didnt say they werent more effective but i should have "the biggest (not only) thing theyre designed for". I pointed out that most of them are just designed to catch buyers. Thats why they are so much more expensive. Do you really believe it costs that much more to manufacture? You would have to be a moron to believe that.
 
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I didnt say they werent more effective but i should have "the biggest (not only) thing theyre designed for". I pointed out that most of them are just designed to catch buyers. Thats why they are so much more expensive. Do you really believe it costs that much more to manufacture? You would have to be a moron to believe that.
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I don't know about how much more it does cost but in the case of Golddots, a lower economy of scale, those fancy nickle plated cases, and the bonded bullet does in fact lead to higher mfg costs. Not to mention better packaging and QC. It's totally worth the extra dollars to me, considering they mostly live in magazines and get shot up every election ear, same with replacing the battery in my Aimpoint PRO.
 
Roc Doc said:
I don't know about how much more it does cost but in the case of Golddots, a lower economy of scale, those fancy nickle plated cases, and the bonded bullet does in fact lead to higher mfg costs. Not to mention better packaging and QC. It's totally worth the extra dollars to me, considering they mostly live in magazines and get shot up every election ear, same with replacing the battery in my Aimpoint PRO.
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I wasnt really referring to bullets like the gold dots. They're on the lower end of the price spectrum for hollow points. I was referring to the bougie boutique $60 a 20 box man stoppers that every single tactical media blogger YouTube Star attached to a manufacturer seems to offer nowadays
 
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Stuck said:
I wasnt really referring to bullets like the gold dots. They're on the lower end of the price spectrum for hollow points. I was referring to the bougie boutique $60 a 20 box man stoppers that every single tactical media blogger YouTube Star attached to a manufacturer seems to offer nowadays
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Really $60 a box? Most of the 'defense' ammo is about a $0.60 - $1.20 a round, Golddots, Critical Defense, Hydra Shocks, etc. Sure there's Buffalo Bore and Underwood, but even those aren't $60. Are you hanging out on Tik-Tok again?
 
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