"Im not saying you have to buy the warranty".....

woods said:
Im a sucker and bought the warranty on the wife's Impreza. We had the Freestyle at the time and i was sort of over fixing it in the cold and snow.

They caught me at a weak moment. :laughing:
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Subaru's gold plan or aftermarket? Unless things have changed in the last decade, their gold plan is a stupid good deal and covers everything under the damn sun.

We had a customer with a Tribeca we ****ing hated because he had the gold plan and he'd bring it every little squeak, rattle, or shake. Old retired guy. I swear to god he'd bring that thing in 2-3 times a month for some nothing complaint and never paid a dime for anything. The amount of free service he got out of that plan probably paid for the car.
 
Motorcharge said:
Subaru's gold plan or aftermarket? Unless things have changed in the last decade, their gold plan is a stupid good deal and covers everything under the damn sun.

We had a customer with a Tribeca we ****ing hated because he had the gold plan and he'd bring it every little squeak, rattle, or shake. Old retired guy. I swear to god he'd bring that thing in 2-3 times a month for some nothing complaint and never paid a dime for anything. The amount of free service he got out of that plan probably paid for the car.
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It was through Subaru. And it extends to when my kid starts driving it which is neat.

No aftermarket though.
 
Warranty is only as good as a company standing behind it.
Many are in it to take the $ and deny any claim. Also there is a lot of fine print about using salvage parts/substitutes etc.

My stance on any 3rd party extended/additional warranty - **** no.
The only exception would be for factory extended warranty.

Should issues arise I will deal with them, should a vehicle/motorcycle/trailer etc. turn into a major POS there is no warranty that will have me reconsider keeping it.
Tools that do not hold up get upgraded, why warranty garbage product. That company gets no more $ from me.

So far so good. Have an aging fleet, just about everything runs/tagged/insured.

New vehicles hold no appeal, seems as the years go on it is getting worse, more complex tech/powertrain failures gallore. Costs to buy/insure/run have never been higher.

Sadly those of us with older vehicles get to deal with part shortages, some parts are obsolete, and overall aftermarket part industry is in a giant ****ter quality wise. Paying more $ for less seems to be norm, across multiple aspects of life...
 
xr-nut said:
used car dealer here so obviously im biased to this comment. :laughing: but carvana has tried the vending machine approach and it didnt work. something about people needing someone to talk to through the process and after sale issues. (should there be any) I believe i add a lot of value to the equation and I am the ONLY solution to any issues for my customer.

as for the op-

gap is not for repos. its for total loss claims. "extended warranty" is a euphemism for VSC, vehicle service contract. legally we are not allowed to call it a warranty, because only the mfg can warranty the product.

having been on multiple sides of the vsc industry: as an adjuster for one of the countries largest vsc companies, as a dealer selling them and also a dealer servicing them.....I consider myself somewhat of an expert. kind of like sleeping at a holiday inn kind of expert. so here are the basics. there are two types of vsc contracts and only two. inclusionary and exclusionary.

1- inclusionary- this is likely the most common type(on used cars) and most often the type that gets the industry a bad rap, due to it ONLY covering parts that are listed in the contract. no one, and i mean NO one ever reads the contract or is in possession of the damn thing. so when the fog light leaks(like mentioned in a previous comment) and the owner expects the "warranty" I bought to cover it.....then they're pissed off because its not a "stated part" in the contract. its not the vsc companies fault the buyer was not aware of what the actual coverage was. that's on the dealer that sold it and the buyer.

2-exclusionary- this is most often sold along with new cars beside the oe warranty. I can also sell it on newer used cars, typically still in some form of oe warranty. ie- a 2022 with 50k on it, still under the oe powertrain warranty. this coverage mimics the oe bumper to bumper coverage EXCEPT for the items listed as "excluded", which typically are wear items. brake consumables, belts, hoses, etc. ( i have a company that will cover "wear items" also) BUT...... back to the foglight above. this contract will probably look at that leak as a crack from damage and not an actual part failure, so I would not be surprised that it may not cover it.


tldr- caveat emptor mfr's
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Which one will the C5 have? 😆
 
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Provience said:
Some kids just can't be taught :flipoff2:
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Didn't buy that one.

It was pretty wore out. My old CJ5 rode/drove better, and sadly I am being literal.

Cheap ass lift kit was done. unsure what brand, maybe Rough Country? Unadjustable arms, standard poly bushings. Shocks done, shock bushings had approx 3/8 play in them. Never driven a TJ with such bad road manners. I layed under it and had my son rock it back and forth after the surprising test drive to find out wtf was going on with it.

Tires were 2025 date codes, pass front was about a round as a potato, approx 1/2 tread. Jeep pulled hard pass side when steering wheel was let go.

They were also firm on the price of $11k

Photographed great though :homer:

For now, Ill keep saying a prayer before turning the key on the ole JK :laughing:....or start shopping for an LS/4l80..........:idea:
 
DWT said:
Dave smith in Kellogg Idaho is the business model for online buying. They'll fly you out and pick you up at the airport to drive your new rig home. They sell stupid volume of new rigs there. It's a podunk nowhere town that would basically not exist if it wasn't for the dealership. They've bought up half the town to put cars and trucks on the properties. :laughing:
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The Dodge dealer in Libby MT beat Dave Smith when I purchased my truck
easy peasy

My Parents and Grandma have purchased from Dave Smith, they are easy too
 
Trashman said:
"But Im not selling the vehicle without it"..


Thats when I was done. :laughing:

Looking at something to maybe replace the JKUR.

Dealer added $1000 Gap and a $3200 warranty.

Take it or leave it. So I left.
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new vehicle or not?

do you have a 2 day contract cancellation option?

buy it then come back and say you changed your mind.

Also, you should be able to cancel the warranty after you buy it, right there at the dealership
 
DT75FLH said:
Zeigler for extended Factory warranty on a jeep or a ford...cheapest in the country..and probably half price of what you were quoted...

You can get a price on the website for miles/age you want...also when checking out type in "Payinfull" in discount code box and get another 275. To 320.00 off the price.
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Is zeigler legit? As in worth the $ because it’s a true bumper to bumper? I declined zeilgler yesterday but had never heard of it.
 
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When I sold cars commission on the warranty and rust protection was equal to or higher than the vehicle. The warranty had a big mark up.
 
woods said:
Top of my list for when I get serious about something.
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I wish it was in better shape.

None of it was necessary detrimental, but buying a new kit, shocks, 8.8 (had a dana 35) It simply wasnt "the one" right now.

The 6 speed is good. I would be happy with the AZ15/NV3550
 
Trashman said:
I wish it was in better shape.

None of it was necessary detrimental, but buying a new kit, shocks, 8.8 (had a dana 35) It simply wasnt "the one" right now.

The 6 speed is good. I would be happy with the AZ15/NV3550
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My YJ spit out three AX15s. :laughing:

But ya. 4.0, six speed, 8.8, and 35s. Call it good there.
 
woods said:
My YJ spit out three AX15s. :laughing:

But ya. 4.0, six speed, 8.8, and 35s. Call it good there.
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Holy crap!

I would do the same but throw a HP 30 in the front out of a later XJ. They're like $250 from Upickit, so why not.

RCVs, Chromos, lockers, rubi case, done. Or Rubi 44s if I found a set.

My brother wheeled his TJ on 35s for ever with a 44 rear, 30 front. He recently went to 37s with a 44 front 60 rear. Now he does wheelstands. IMO he lost the height to length balance.
 
Trashman said:
My brother wheeled his TJ on 35s for ever with a 44 rear, 30 front. He recently went to 37s with a 44 front 60 rear. Now he does wheelstands. IMO he lost the height to length balance.
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You aren't wrong.
 
Motorcharge said:
I negotiated over the phone and had them deliver it. Asked for the sales manager when I called, salesman asked why. Told him I don't want to waste my time on any sales bull****, rather go right to the manager and tell them what I want and what I'm willing to pay and that's it or I'll go somewhere else.

My time is more valuable to me than playing a bunch of bull**** finance games. Sticker price was fair for what I wanted. If the condition checks out I'll pay that without haggling on it as long as you don't waste my time trying to upsell me any bull****.

They drove it over an hour to me with the sales agreement with no other back and forth and nothing tried to slip in. Only thing they tried to upsell me on was some roadside warranty **** and free oil changes, but that was after I called about a mix up with the plates and they dropped it immediately when I told her I wasn't interested and had already signed everything. Though even that was reasonable and I probably would have done it if they were local, but I'm not driving an hour one way for free oil changes.
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When we bought the wife's new used car i found it online. It was a decent price, not a screaming deal but it had all the stuff we were looking for, including the fancy leather option that nobody bought. I called, said i wanted it and that if he didn't give me no hassle id just pay the asking price.
24 hours later they had a wire transfer and i had an airplane ticket.
I never even spoke to that guy again until i showed up to collect the car. Shook hands, signed some papers, left 20 minutes after i showed up.
Was the ideal transaction.

I'm willing to pay another thousand dollars over the haggle price just to not ****ing deal with car dealers.
 
woods said:
My YJ spit out three AX15s. :laughing:

But ya. 4.0, six speed, 8.8, and 35s. Call it good there.
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I don't even know what to say here. I beat the piss out of an ax15 for years.
What fluid?
If it isn't redline mt90 you're wrong.
 
87manche said:
I don't even know what to say here. I beat the piss out of an ax15 for years.
What fluid?
If it isn't redline mt90 you're wrong.
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High school. Chirping 2nd gear, beating it on the rocks, and I lost 3rd,4th, and reverse at one point. Drove like that for MONTHS.

Slave cylinder leaked too. We did a few of those which sucked because they're internal.

That thing had all sorts of issues. To boot, it was also my first vehicle I ever worked on. There was, uh, a lot of learning there. :laughing:
 
87manche said:
When we bought the wife's new used car i found it online. It was a decent price, not a screaming deal but it had all the stuff we were looking for, including the fancy leather option that nobody bought. I called, said i wanted it and that if he didn't give me no hassle id just pay the asking price.
24 hours later they had a wire transfer and i had an airplane ticket.
I never even spoke to that guy again until i showed up to collect the car. Shook hands, signed some papers, left 20 minutes after i showed up.
Was the ideal transaction.

I'm willing to pay another thousand dollars over the haggle price just to not ****ing deal with car dealers.
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This has been my experience when buying the last two vehicles at a dealer. I'm the type to know exactly what I want...model, color, options. While they weren't exactly rare or hard to find, they weren't what a normal dealer would have ordered usually. In both cases the price was fair/inline with the market at the time so I would have been fine paying what they were asking. Set up an appointment, test drove and bought, declining any upselling. The first truck they had actually lowered the price from when I found it to when I finally got time to go to the dealer. Second one, got there and saw it was going to need tires shortly. Asked for a new set or $1500 off, surprisingly they took money off the deal.
 
87manche said:
I don't even know what to say here. I beat the piss out of an ax15 for years.
What fluid?
If it isn't redline mt90 you're wrong.
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I had a ax15 4.0 xj on 33s with a 3.55 8.25" rear that was welded.

I remember going in a circle in a parking lot until inside rear tire lifted, push clutch, throttle to the rug, and side step clutch with it on the rev limiter. Continue with donuts until satisfied. Probably did that a handful of times, that fact the driveshaft stayed in it is amazing to me. :lmao:

That has cemented into my mind, that ax15s are indestructible and chrysler 8.25 axles. That xj got wheeled HARD as well, usually following rigs on tons and 39-42s.
 
Poke said:
Is zeigler legit? As in worth the $ because it’s a true bumper to bumper? I declined zeilgler yesterday but had never heard of it.
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Yes...these are FACTORY warranty....they only sell ram and ford.... and the discount code still works...been using it for over 10 yrs
 
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When I bought my expedition it was blue oval certified so you got 4 month warranty :laughing:
BUT I was able to get a 2yr 24k factory warranty on a 9 yr old 110k mile tk for 2400. Due to it being certified.

Drove it coast 2 coast 2x for that....it paid for a radiator, steering box, and a cam shaft :laughing:

When I took it to the dealer for the radiator...service writer told me that IF it had a car shield warranty...they won't work on it :homer::laughing::laughing: and take it somewhere else
 
Used to be a used car lot here that was "home to the no guarantee" Even had a big banner hanging on the fence :laughing: Test drives were limited to about a block, and normally they didnt have enough gas in them to go that far. But they had a lotta cheap rigs though :lmao:
 
DT75FLH said:

Save $$ on A Genuine Mopar Vehicle Protection Plan!

Protect your vehicle with a Mopar/Flexcare Vehicle Protection Plan by getting a Quick Quote today! Save money with this kind of extended warranty at discount prices!
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Yes...these are FACTORY warranty....they only sell ram and ford.... and the discount code still works...been using it for over 10 yrs
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I was at a gmc dealership
 
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