Anyone in or near Indianapolis? Ashke is stuck there with a badly broken vehicle

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what the **** are you talking about?

So you were an e-3 over 3.

BAH? BAS? any specialty pay? You said you were FMF - Sea pay?

You are trying to make this sound worse than it was.

Also, you missed my entire point about how you could have been better prepared and used your VA as the reason you didn't buy a house.

You could have bought conventional, or FHA, or USDA or any of the other programs out there and then refi with your VA later.

You keep putting up straw men instead of real arguments.
Ah yes, because I totally knew I could have done that. What the **** are you talking about? The first time I learned about how to do any of this house buying **** was as I was transitioning out of the Marines. So I don't know what the **** you're talking about. conventional loan requires down payment, does it not? USDA doesn't but it is strict on location and income? And you need to be able to see the houses? You're just going to buy a house site unseen? This isn't like a ****ty car, the ****?


No I was not an E3 over 3. I was an e4. I did not say I was FMF. I did not get specialty pay.
 
IMO, get back in... Army, Marines, whatever until you DO know what you want.

you are rudderless and clueless, so until you have a clue you need guidance and discipline.

You have neither now.
I could do that. But then you have to move again and you don't get a say where. Talking to Air Force, Army and the Marines, they told me flat out they might send me back to California and I told them flat out I don't want that.
 
I could do that. But then you have to move again and you don't get a say where. Talking to Air Force, Army and the Marines, they told me flat out they might send me back to California and I told them flat out I don't want that.
Extending with the reserves or national guard is pretty easy to do and provides some stability and a bit more options looking for work.

Do it long enough and it turns into a pretty easy to gather retirement check as well
 
Extending with the reserves or national guard is pretty easy to do and provides some stability and a bit more options looking for work.

Do it long enough and it turns into a pretty easy to gather retirement check as well
Yeah I already did that part
 
what the **** are you talking about?

So you were an e-3 over 3.

BAH? BAS? any specialty pay? You said you were FMF - Sea pay?

You are trying to make this sound worse than it was.

Also, you missed my entire point about how you could have been better prepared and used your VA as the reason you didn't buy a house.

You could have bought conventional, or FHA, or USDA or any of the other programs out there and then refi with your VA later.

You keep putting up straw men instead of real arguments.
Nobody in their right mind would buy a house and refi in a few months in this market. That's be insane.

VA is the way to go if you don't want to spend the cash up front for conventional. Beats FHA or USDA pretty much always, though not always by much.


Fresh out and trying to figure out where and what to do for a bit, living with the inlaws makes the most sense.

It's be cool if they weren't pieces of ****, but you can only pick your family so much. Now it's a deal with it, save up, get out of there as soon as you can type thing.


Honestly with the way things are going, renting for a couple years in a new place to see if it's what you like makes sense. Even with inflation, rates are high enough that the transaction cost of buying a house isn't going to pencil out for short term holdings
 
Do not buy a house. You cannot afford one. On paper you may be able to but you can't. You need to rent or live with in laws until you get a better more stable job and finish school or find a career.
 
Ashke- you're a grown ****ing man. I have no idea why you feel the need to explain yourself to a bunch of guys that don't really care about you. If I was you, I would tell them to go **** themselves.

A lot of them are just interested in tarnishing your trophy so their own trophy looks shinier in comparison.
 
I remember why I stopped posting in the last thread.

You are too lazy and stupid to actually take responsibility for yourself and your decisions. Everything is someone else's fault, or misunderstanding, or failure to spoon feed you information.

And take your bull**** about pay elsewhere.

2026 Monthly Income Breakdown (Estimated) (camp pendleton was the reference)
  • Basic Pay (E-4 over 3): $3,482.40
  • Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS): $476.95
  • Total Monthly Pay: $3,959.35 [1, 2]
That works out to 24.75 per hour... so you are taking a pay cut up front and dismissing it.

And you are gonna have to pay health insurance, rent, utilities out of that, then add food and baby 'stuff'.

Here is how that really pencil's out - and it is a calculation you should have made prior to getting out:


To maintain the exact same standard of living in West Virginia as a civilian, you would need a gross civilian salary of approximately $84,000 to $89,000 per year.

43.75/hour
Even though you are living on base at Camp Pendleton and don't see a monthly housing check, your housing benefit is a massive tax-free perk pegged to one of the most expensive ZIP codes in America. When calculating your Regular Military Compensation (RMC)—the actual financial footprint you leave—you must factor in the "phantom value" of that Southern California housing alongside tax advantages and health care. [1, 2]
The Regular Military Compensation (RMC) Math
The military packages your compensation using tax-free allowances. To replace this as a civilian, a regular company has to pay you enough taxable money so that your take-home pay matches what the military gives you for free. [1, 2, 3]
Pay Component [1, 2, 3]Monthly ValueAnnualized ValueNotes
Basic Pay (E-4 > 3)$3,482.40$41,788.80Fully taxable income.
BAS (Food)$476.95$5,723.40100% Tax-Free.
On-Base Housing Value$3,627.00$43,524.00Equal to Camp Pendleton BAH for E-4 with dependents. 100% Tax-Free.
Healthcare (Tricare Prime)$650.00$7,800.00Estimated cost of a civilian family health plan premium + out-of-pocket maximums.
Total Military Footprint$8,236.35$98,836.20Your total annual compensation value.
Adjusting for West Virginia
While your military footprint is worth nearly $99,000 in Southern California, West Virginia has a lower cost of living and different tax rates.
  1. The Tax Advantage ($6,000 - $8,000 value): Because roughly $49,000 of your military compensation (Housing + BAS) is hidden from the IRS and state tax boards, you pay significantly less tax than a civilian earning the same total amount. A civilian in West Virginia has to pay a 4.5% to 5.5% state income tax plus federal brackets on every single dollar they make to pay for their house and food.
  2. Cost of Living Adjustment: West Virginia's cost of living is roughly 15% to 20% lower than the national average, and vastly cheaper than Oceanside/San Diego. A civilian salary of $84,000 - $89,000 in West Virginia will buy you the exact same size house, lifestyle, and savings capability as your E-4 setup on base at Camp Pendleton. [1, 2, 3, 4]
If you are looking to transition or compare career paths, let me know:
  • What civilian career field are you considering?
  • Do you plan to rent or buy a home in West Virginia?
  • Will your spouse be working or contributing to the household income?

And you want us to believe that you are gonna be successful with your hopes.

peace out.
 
Ashke- you're a grown ****ing man. I have no idea why you feel the need to explain yourself to a bunch of guys that don't really care about you. If I was you, I would tell them to go **** themselves.

A lot of them are just interested in tarnishing your trophy so their own trophy looks shinier in comparison.
No, you are wrong.

We have been trying for years to get him to be a success. He had an opportunity, but is falling back to his old ways.

Would rather see him succeed, but I don't see that happening by just letting him make mistakes with no feedback.

But then again... I am out. Logic has no place in this thread.
 
I remember why I stopped posting in the last thread.

You are too lazy and stupid to actually take responsibility for yourself and your decisions. Everything is someone else's fault, or misunderstanding, or failure to spoon feed you information.

And take your bull**** about pay elsewhere.

2026 Monthly Income Breakdown (Estimated) (camp pendleton was the reference)
  • Basic Pay (E-4 over 3): $3,482.40
  • Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS): $476.95
  • Total Monthly Pay: $3,959.35 [1, 2]
That works out to 24.75 per hour... so you are taking a pay cut up front and dismissing it.

And you are gonna have to pay health insurance, rent, utilities out of that, then add food and baby 'stuff'.

Here is how that really pencil's out - and it is a calculation you should have made prior to getting out:


To maintain the exact same standard of living in West Virginia as a civilian, you would need a gross civilian salary of approximately $84,000 to $89,000 per year.

43.75/hour
Even though you are living on base at Camp Pendleton and don't see a monthly housing check, your housing benefit is a massive tax-free perk pegged to one of the most expensive ZIP codes in America. When calculating your Regular Military Compensation (RMC)—the actual financial footprint you leave—you must factor in the "phantom value" of that Southern California housing alongside tax advantages and health care. [1, 2]
The Regular Military Compensation (RMC) Math
The military packages your compensation using tax-free allowances. To replace this as a civilian, a regular company has to pay you enough taxable money so that your take-home pay matches what the military gives you for free. [1, 2, 3]

Pay Component [1, 2, 3]Monthly ValueAnnualized ValueNotes
Basic Pay (E-4 > 3)$3,482.40$41,788.80Fully taxable income.
BAS (Food)$476.95$5,723.40100% Tax-Free.
On-Base Housing Value$3,627.00$43,524.00Equal to Camp Pendleton BAH for E-4 with dependents. 100% Tax-Free.
Healthcare (Tricare Prime)$650.00$7,800.00Estimated cost of a civilian family health plan premium + out-of-pocket maximums.
Total Military Footprint$8,236.35$98,836.20Your total annual compensation value.
Adjusting for West Virginia
While your military footprint is worth nearly $99,000 in Southern California, West Virginia has a lower cost of living and different tax rates.

  1. The Tax Advantage ($6,000 - $8,000 value): Because roughly $49,000 of your military compensation (Housing + BAS) is hidden from the IRS and state tax boards, you pay significantly less tax than a civilian earning the same total amount. A civilian in West Virginia has to pay a 4.5% to 5.5% state income tax plus federal brackets on every single dollar they make to pay for their house and food.
  2. Cost of Living Adjustment: West Virginia's cost of living is roughly 15% to 20% lower than the national average, and vastly cheaper than Oceanside/San Diego. A civilian salary of $84,000 - $89,000 in West Virginia will buy you the exact same size house, lifestyle, and savings capability as your E-4 setup on base at Camp Pendleton. [1, 2, 3, 4]
If you are looking to transition or compare career paths, let me know:
  • What civilian career field are you considering?
  • Do you plan to rent or buy a home in West Virginia?
  • Will your spouse be working or contributing to the household income?

And you want us to believe that you are gonna be successful with your hopes.

peace out.

I am a grown ass adult and it's not about spoon feeding. You don't know what you don't know. I had no prospects of owning a house really when I joined the Marines. Does anyone? You had all the answers? Also I wasn't e4 over 3, either. I don't want you to believe ****. I will be successful and that's the thing. I think you just struggle to see past whatever bull**** you want to latch onto. I've clearly made it this far after becoming a Marine. I will make it farther just fine with or without people like you. I don't have to prove diddly **** to you, take it leave it.
 
Make it to SoCal and get a bank acct with a cali address and Ill help you get your CDL, you can even sleep in your car at our yard like a lot of russians did
 
No, you are wrong.

We have been trying for years to get him to be a success. He had an opportunity, but is falling back to his old ways.

Would rather see him succeed, but I don't see that happening by just letting him make mistakes with no feedback.

But then again... I am out. Logic has no place in this thread.
I'm not falling back into ****. I'm stepping into a new direction, with good family and friends to keep my head on straight. Is it unclear? Yeah. But I'll succeed just fine.
Make it to SoCal and get a bank acct with a cali address and Ill help you get your CDL, you can even sleep in your car at our yard like a lot of russians did
Pass. I appreciate the offer though.
 
Ashke- you're a grown ****ing man. I have no idea why you feel the need to explain yourself to a bunch of guys that don't really care about you. If I was you, I would tell them to go **** themselves.

A lot of them are just interested in tarnishing your trophy so their own trophy looks shinier in comparison.

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Pass. I appreciate the offer though.

it could open a lot of doors. City/county workers, electrical, etc. could get you a bus license too.


This thread just became the Bash McBallGargle Thread with everyone having different opinions about how stroke my ****. Zip my up when y'all are done, 71PA_Highboy

nah man not everyone. **** the haters.
:beer:
 
it could open a lot of doors. City/county workers, electrical, etc. could get you a bus license too.




nah man not everyone. **** the haters.
:beer:
I don't have any desire to come back to SoCal. I value my guns, my vehicles, etc. My f350 was 732 dollars for one year of registration. Holy fawk. It's 60 bucks here.
 
I'm just comparing my former base pay to what I'm making now. It's almost directly equal.
Yeah but your former pay was with mortgage, insurance and property taxes of $0. Current pay has to cover all that ****.
I theoretically should count BAH, but. bAH changes based on where you live. California is awesome on paper, WV not so much. Neither are enough to cover a mortgage.
you're talking out your ass; any of the WV scales are plenty to cover a mortgage in the area:
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Pendleton as well:
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I don't have any desire to come back to SoCal. I value my guns, my vehicles, etc. My f350 was 732 dollars for one year of registration. Holy fawk. It's 60 bucks here.

He isnt wrong about a CDL though. Be a damn handy thing to have, even if it were just as a backup plan.

Granted you have to actually make it to and from the destination without the help of the internet. So maybe scratch that idea :flipoff2:
 
Yeah but your former pay was with mortgage, insurance and property taxes of $0. Current pay has to cover all that ****.

you're talking out your ass; any of the WV scales are plenty to cover a mortgage:
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Pendleton as well:
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Not for a 3 bedroom house with some property, it's not.
 
He isnt wrong about a CDL though. Be a damn handy thing to have, even if it were just as a backup plan.

Granted you have to actually make it to and from the destination without the help of the internet. So maybe scratch that idea :flipoff2:
:lmao: the CDL is not a bad idea at all. I don't desire to be on the road and constantly never home either.
 
This whole thread has done nothing but bring out the worst in everyone for the last 20 pages.

I retract my classic thread post. Not even close to being worthy.
I requested to take off and nuke it from orbit like 10 pages ago :laughing:
 
:lmao: the CDL is not a bad idea at all. I don't desire to be on the road and constantly never home either.
Did you try your hand at forklift at one point? As I recall that did not go well 😅
 
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