Kyle Loftis dead? 1320 Video

We lost someone close in our family years ago. They were dragged HARD through life a few years prior. Lost everything. Terrible low point. But, they started a new career at a new location, was on an upswing, and we got the call. Flattened us all.
 
Johnny Longrifle said:
GTFO with your red flag consfication BS
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Agreed.

My family stands on the point of the decision not being right or wrong. Its the most intimate decision one could ever make. You want to check out, so be it. Just, you decide to check out, don't make it through someone else- by cop or train track.
 
Provience said:
somebody help me out. Why is it unfortunate and not to be discussed that he killed himself?

on the one side, suicides breeds suicide. on the other hand, acknowledging it brings discussion and brings up that it is worth talking about
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Should be open and talked about. Otherwise the stigma is always going to be there and people thinking about it won't talk about it. I don't agree with the choice but it still should be talked about.
 
Provience said:
somebody help me out. Why is it unfortunate and not to be discussed that he killed himself?

on the one side, suicides breeds suicide. on the other hand, acknowledging it brings discussion and brings up that it is worth talking about
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Mostly because once it gets out, that news spreads like wildfire and people forget about the person and only talk about the method.

Im with you, this stuff needs to be talked about and happens way to often because nobody wants to discuss uncomfortable subjects.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
#1 Reason not to commit suicide......

It might make sombody you don't like happy. **** that!!


The only way I could see offing myself is if I was diagnosed with some awful diseases that was going to kill me slowly and painfully. Otherwise, nope...nope...nope
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In a case like that I don't think I could off myself, but why not do things you wouldn't normally do, take more chances, walk closer to the edge, be more daring in life, if you know it's terminal, take chances you would never take.

Swim with the sharks :laughing:
 
Stingray said:
In a case like that I don't think I could off myself, but why not do things you wouldn't normally do, take more chances, walk closer to the edge, be more daring in life, if you know it's terminal, take chances you would never take.

Swim with the sharks :laughing:
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The slowly and painfully part of dying would keep that from happening.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
#1 Reason not to commit suicide......

It might make sombody you don't like happy. **** that!!


The only way I could see offing myself is if I was diagnosed with some awful diseases that was going to kill me slowly and painfully. Otherwise, nope...nope...nope
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There's lots of reason to and not to, each situation is different.

Something that kind of bugs me though, my dad has made full peace with dying. Hell, I thought he'd be dead a year ago

Welp, he's turned a corner and has decided he wants to live. Okay, cool. Same time, he has also decided that if he can't take care of himself, he wants me to kill him.

Welp, alright I guess. Kind of a bummer to put it on me rather than handle it yourself. It's mildly annoying :laughing: if he did kill himself, I'd honestly think it's just because he finally make peace with everything and decided it was time. What do you do after Nirvana?
 
Suicide is an option for people who have reached their end. It's not as easy or shallow as most people think. To someone who is battling severe depression, it's a way out, it's relief, it's your savior. Sometimes when you are surrounded by darkness, it's easier just to fade into the black. It's impossible for someone who has never reached that point to understand. If you don't understand be thankful. The mind is incredibly powerful, even when it's broken.
 
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YZRider said:
Dude looked like a zombie in the ZR1 video, skinny, no energy, glasses stayed on. I'm guessing chronic pain + opioid spiral, seen it happen several times in real life over way lighter injuries.
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I haven't watched the video, but when I was on morphine for my knee replacements, zombie was the exact phrase to describe me. I was a lump of meat that didn't move.
 
YZRider said:
Dude looked like a zombie in the ZR1 video, skinny, no energy, glasses stayed on. I'm guessing chronic pain + opioid spiral, seen it happen several times in real life over way lighter injuries.
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Also wonder what toll that he allegedly left the guy in car burning had on him. Very little coverage/video about that accident but Social Media was relentless on that he left without helping.
 
Lumberjack said:
Also wonder what toll that he allegedly left the guy in car burning had on him. Very little coverage/video about that accident but Social Media was relentless on that he left without helping.
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Dont know about that. Kyle was able to get out and was pretty banged up, bystanders had to flip the car and haul the driver out.
 
YZRider said:
Dont know about that. Kyle was able to get out and was pretty banged up, bystanders had to flip the car and haul the driver out.
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Didn't know the car was flipped. What I had read, book of faces fwiw, was he was able to get out and driver was left in a burning vehicle. Also claimed that he had just injured his shoulder but it sounds like his injuries were much worse which would explain why he was supposedly overheard saying " get me out of here" like to the ER instead instead of "get me outta here before the cops come" like rumors on FB claimed.
 
Lumberjack said:
Didn't know the car was flipped. What I had read, book of faces fwiw, was he was able to get out and driver was left in a burning vehicle. Also claimed that he had just injured his shoulder but it sounds like his injuries were much worse which would explain why he was supposedly overheard saying " get me out of here" like to the ER instead instead of "get me outta here before the cops come" like rumors on FB claimed.
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Yeah, there's so little we know and I don't blame anyone for keeping the details tight. I do remember most of the racers bailed and got tons of **** for it.
 
woods said:
I haven't watched the video, but when I was on morphine for my knee replacements, zombie was the exact phrase to describe me. I was a lump of meat that didn't move.
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Good buddy broke his arm and hit the street probably before the prescription ran out, I think he's still alive but will never be the same guy. Hate saying anything about luck, anyone can fall into that hole.
 
Hopefully Fred and the rest of the 1320 crew can continue to keep the channel running and producing new content. I have been watching his videos since the streetfire.net days and its going to leave a big hole in the car community if they go away. 🥲

Whoever wins the Vette they are currently giving away is going to have something special if its the last 1320 giveaway car.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Hopefully Fred and the rest of the 1320 crew can continue to keep the channel running and producing new content. I have been watching his videos since the streetfire.net days and its going to leave a big hole in the car community if they go away. 🥲

Whoever wins the Vette they are currently giving away is going to have something special if its the last 1320 giveaway car.
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With kyles absence lately it might seem like Fred and the group have been running it already.

That's just guesses though.
 
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