Wednesday whatsit?

KarlVP

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nevermind, a bit smaller than what I thought it was.
 
Gas valve

Eta after kriptonite mentioned the weep hole I missed...
I dunno what it is..
The drain **** seems to be plausible.
 
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Looks to me like an old house heat radiator shutoff valve. The square key is kind of a hint, I think. I feel like there would be a removable handle.
 
What does the top of the valve look like. Side view almost looks like a gate valve with a square handle, but Ive never seen on that small.
 
What does the top of the valve look like. Side view almost looks like a gate valve with a square handle, but Ive never seen on that small.
It's a tapered "ball valve" you loosen the nut on the bottom, tap on the nut (this releases the taper) then turn the valve and retighten the nut.
 
What does the top of the valve look like. Side view almost looks like a gate valve with a square handle, but Ive never seen on that small.
Was going to say, curb stop but its too small.
 
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That's a 1/2 stop and waste valve. When it's closed it allows the stand pipe to drain down preventing freezing. Used mostly for outdoor yard faucets.

You can see the weep hole and the arrow indicating direction of flo in the third picture.

It's a tapered "ball valve" you loosen the nut on the bottom, tap on the nut (this releases the taper) then turn the valve and retighten the nut.

What's its primary use? Ive never seen or heard of one and seen my fair share of obscure HVAC and hydronic valves.

I know you said standpipe, which makes me think fire sprinkler, but never seen anything that small on that stuff.
 
What's its primary use? Ive never seen or heard of one and seen my fair share of obscure HVAC and hydronic valves.

I know you said standpipe, which makes me think fire sprinkler, but never seen anything that small on that stuff.
Gas valves, although I've never seen one with a weep hole. Natural gas, there should be one on your ng service meter.
 
Gas valves, although I've never seen one with a weep hole. Natural gas, there should be one on your ng service meter.
I'm with you on that, your assessment of how to operate one is spot on...
Purging gas inside:eek:
Noe I can see the 1/2/waste dumping on the basement floor.
But I'm thinking about a frost **** being easier maybe...

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It's scrap weight in pennies,nickles,and dimes
 
carrot valve

made them that way because brass can be lapped in to a good enough seal, especially if it is oiled
recall they used to not really have rubber that would stand up to any of the **** that modern **** will

it's why we're saddled with brake fluid; petro oil would destroy normal rubber in hoses at the pressures brake systems called for, a couple decades later technology improved, but it just never made sense to switch over. Renault (?) tried once in the '70s.
 
What's its primary use? Ive never seen or heard of one and seen my fair share of obscure HVAC and hydronic valves.

I know you said standpipe, which makes me think fire sprinkler, but never seen anything that small on that stuff.
Frost free hydrant drain. In these cold regions our water lines are 7' deep. This winter when my water line broke, I had the plumber put in one of these so it turns off and bleeds off the line.
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Any of you old peeps remember the gas hose barbs in old houses. Grandparents house had a portable gas heater that connected to one. Dang it was real easy to bump one open. Lucky to be alive!
 
Frost free hydrant drain. In these cold regions our water lines are 7' deep. This winter when my water line broke, I had the plumber put in one of these so it turns off and bleeds off the line.
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That seems like a dumbass location for a valve that requires the nut on the bottom to be tightened or loosened.
 
That seems like a dumbass location for a valve that requires the nut on the bottom to be tightened or loosened.
I'm guessing its an old design. Though the nut should never get touched. The one that went in at my place this winter looked like this, but it does appear from my search, some still have an external nut.
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Homodepot carries this one.
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Then the valve won't turn or will leak.
As said above, shutoff valve for irrigation below the frost line. I replaced a similar looking 1" tapered valve for my sprinklers a few years ago, 6' below grade. It worked fine for years, then started leaking with the water off. It didn't leak when it was on, since the weep hole is covered. The replacement was a ball valve, the original was probably from the '80s.
 
As said above, shutoff valve for irrigation below the frost line. I replaced a similar looking 1" tapered valve for my sprinklers a few years ago, 6' below grade. It worked fine for years, then started leaking with the water off. It didn't leak when it was on, since the weep hole is covered. The replacement was a ball valve, the original was probably from the '80s.
As said above, tightening that nut would have stopped the leak.
 
Definitely not for gas, lots of older country houses had one on the water supply to the house. In cold weather turn it off and let the system drain down. I'm taking back when water supply was galvanized piping all cut and threaded on the job site. Waste was cast iron with leaded joints. One of my first work memories is being 12 years old and taking care of the lead pot, carrying ladles of lead for the joints.
That's been a day or two
 
Oh and gas valves will never have a weep hole unless it ( the hole) is threaded.
 
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