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Shop Security---Methods. or "the keeping your **** secure thread"

Muckin_Slusher

Muckin_Slusher

Digging the same hole for 19 years.
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How do you keep your shop safe? How do you make your place enough trouble that thieves will move on to easier targets?

Yes I realize the irony of posting this info online, however I think most are obscure enough that the local meth people aren't going to find you here. Don't post if you're concerned.


I think there's good value in obscure/oddball methods.


I need to do more.

So far I've beefed up my man door with a steel mesh to prevent reaching through the window to unlock. Also added sticky plastic stuff to obscure the view.

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Also added steel bar bolted through door to harden the dead bolt area.

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Also beefed up the frame where the latch and dead bolt engage.

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I've got to do something about this door.

While it's in plain view of the street, it's not a very secure door. I've considered adding a second jail cell style door in front of it, so at least they'll have to break down 2 doors to get in. I haven't yet because it would make it look like there must be something good behind that door. I'd rather low profile deterrents. A second jail cell door on the inside would be more hidden.

Am I wrong that the place shouldn't look like it's high security?

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I remember someone on the old site suggested adding internal pipe brackets to a shipping container so you could close and lock the door as normal, but then slide in an 8 foot pipe through a little access door on the side (through the internal brackets) to lock the door. Make the little side door lock but also be hidden.

It should stop a bolt cutter thief, but obviously won't stop someone with a rescue saw...
 

How about limit or magnet switches on doors to activate sirens and lights? Great, now how to disarm the system?​

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Instead of a keypad, how about a canon plug (deutsch connector) that you have to plug in to disarm the system, works for these guys:

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If you haven't heard of them, they install a steel junction box in your car and armored cable into the cab. All the wires are black with no labels. You have to install a keychain plug that has the correct pins jumpered to complete the starter or ECM or fuel pump circuit, etc.
 
other than living in the next building
I make sure that the whole neighborhood is afraid of showing up unannounced beings we have the Second Amendment and all

I also have cordless ding-do dingers in the dark sneaky spots around the property

and of course do the basics, don't announce your vacation, don't pack your **** in front of the neighborhood when you are leaving town, lock your door at night and so on
 
Stop leaving stuff outside that they can use as a tool. I could smash the window out with the 4x4.
 
cj3a said:
Stop leaving stuff outside that they can use as a tool. I could smash the window out with the 4x4.
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However there's always something around. He's asking for making it more of a problem so the crackheads move on. Gates, cameras, lights, and no way to see in.
 
Get a barky dog. My dane is probably our best deterrent. I have to crate him when we leave or put stuff in his way so he doesnt have a clear shot to the doors or windows or he will break the glass out if a delivery man or someone comes to the door.

I like having cameras with push notifications that I can watch from my phone or whatever. I put up absurd perimeter lights that can light up my property like daylight, as well as lights that come on with motion. Seems like a lot of break ins i see online the ****ers just come up and kick the **** out of the doors. I like your steel dead bolt bracket on the door frame. They also make brackets that go around the actual door to keep it from just splitting open when kicked to. Beefy doors make your windows the week link.
 
Dog..

and make such a huge mess in and around that even the tweakers don’t want it.. make it look like all the copper has already been scavenged.

Excavator parked nearby implies I don’t call 911
 
I use two different kinds of security cameras and so far, the only thief I’ve caught was this lousy chicken coming up on my deck to steal cat food.

Its day is coming… soon.

Oh, and a little homeless bird thief too, but it doesn’t eat much.
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Big ass flood lights at all corners.
I did the fogged plastic on the windows.
Switched the door that has glass windows for a regular plain door.
Roll up doors have deadbolts on both sides, with a padlock. There is plenty of **** inside the shop to cut them off, but it'll take time and be a pain for them.

Big ass American flag on top of the shop, gives the subliminal message that 2A exists on this property.
 
2 German Shepherds, Blink and lots of guns.

Employees and a few other people that come after normal hours now and then text or call and ask me not to shoot.

Nights and weekends I park a tractor with plow and mafia block counterweight across the driveway.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
Roll up garage door got a c-clamp to go along with the original garage door deadbolt. Some day I'll build a second dead bolt for this side.

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I used to do this when we went somewhere before I installed a new garage door opener. The one I had, I couldn’t get the limit switches to work so it always went all the way down, bound up and opened back up so I just left it unlatched.
Muckin_Slusher said:

How about limit or magnet switches on doors to activate sirens and lights? Great, now how to disarm the system?​

​

Instead of a keypad, how about a canon plug (deutsch connector) that you have to plug in to disarm the system, works for these guys:

​

Ravelco Anti Theft Device

Home page for the Ravelco anti theft device, anti theft device for cars, anti theft device for trucks, anti theft device for big rigs, anti theft device for heavy equipment. Not one vehicle ever stolen using the Ravelco Anti Theft Device!
www.ravelco.com
​

The Best Anti Theft Device For Your Car or Truck . . . Period!​

In 48 Years - Not One Vehicle Ever Stolen!


If you haven't heard of them, they install a steel junction box in your car and armored cable into the cab. All the wires are black with no labels. You have to install a keychain plug that has the correct pins jumpered to complete the starter or ECM or fuel pump circuit, etc.
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When I got my bronco, the previous owner made a screw in pigtail screwed in at the bottom of the dash(not noticeable unless you were looking for it). that had braided wire. Electrical doesn’t work unless it’s screwed in.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
Am I wrong that the place shouldn't look like it's high security?
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Depends, are you more worried about Ethan Hunt or tweakers? Heavy obvious security makes the guy with a crowbar go look for easier targets.

A couple months ago the front door of my place got crowbared. The aluminum door flexed enough that the latch and bolt disengaged, but the Amazon electromagnet held it closed.

The security system alerted me, but he'd scooted before I got there, due to the siren.

This kind.
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Muckin_Slusher said:

How about limit or magnet switches on doors to activate sirens and lights? Great, now how to disarm the system?​

​

Instead of a keypad, how about a canon plug (deutsch connector) that you have to plug in to disarm the system, works for these guys:

​

Ravelco Anti Theft Device

Home page for the Ravelco anti theft device, anti theft device for cars, anti theft device for trucks, anti theft device for big rigs, anti theft device for heavy equipment. Not one vehicle ever stolen using the Ravelco Anti Theft Device!
www.ravelco.com
​

The Best Anti Theft Device For Your Car or Truck . . . Period!​

In 48 Years - Not One Vehicle Ever Stolen!


If you haven't heard of them, they install a steel junction box in your car and armored cable into the cab. All the wires are black with no labels. You have to install a keychain plug that has the correct pins jumpered to complete the starter or ECM or fuel pump circuit, etc.
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I have fantasized about an alarm system that locks the doors, starts a smoke machine and strobes inside, and plays “Welcome to the jungle” at 130 dB….
 
Dethmachinefab said:
Id like to build a shotgun blank trip alarm that fires dozens of shells in rapid succession, then holds a delay before dumping off another volley.
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Have a trip wire that pulls a valve. Valve releases air from tank to actuator through metered orifice. Set your 12ga trip alarms to go off wherever you want in the actuator's stroke.

Or you could do valve releases water from one 55g barrel to another. Use a float and arm mechanism in the receiver barrel to set off the alarms.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Have a trip wire that pulls a valve. Valve releases air from tank to actuator through metered orifice. Set your 12ga trip alarms to go off wherever you want in the actuator's stroke.

Or you could do valve releases water from one 55g barrel to another. Use a float and arm mechanism in the receiver barrel to set off the alarms.
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Arrange them in banks with random spacing so it seems like organic shooting. Air cylinder pulls or releases firing pins as it retracts. Multiple units with different restriction fittings for a continuous energetic experience.
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
other than living in the next building
I make sure that the whole neighborhood is afraid of showing up unannounced beings we have the Second Amendment and all
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I had one of my antique trucks try to leave one night, only made it 20' because of the rag stuffed in the carb but it put me on high alert. Old truck with no brakes & no lights so not sure what the plan was but I shouldn't have left the key in it.
Did some heavy target shooting the next morning and when my prime suspect went to the store I followed him and waited till he came out. Calmly told him I was very upset that my truck had moved and that I didn't want any visitors on my side of the street. He denied having anything to do with it but looked appropriately nervous.

Haven't had any issues since.
 
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