The making of three different shops

The darker sample will work for this I gotta get this done so I can list it up for sale
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Added some braces for my machine dolly rear wheels. I’m not to sure the rubber on the wheels is gonna like this load but they were handling a bunch of my mill last use for them before this. I used pipes to move my old mill into my basement and I didn’t have this dolly setup built yet back then. I’m thinking that after searching weights on Bridgeport mills, mine is 2,500 or better with the large 42-48” table pending how you measure it.

I’m thinking my lathe is going to close to 3,000lbs. Naturally weight will be transferred to the tail stock end for my steering skate but even then, they’ll be a bunch of weight on these solid rubber wheels

I noticed last use that the angle the wheels are bolted to were tweaking a bit. So I hammered shims between the wheels frame and the machine to straighten them back upright. It wasn’t much but noticeable non the less. Adding these kicker braces should stop that from happening now. For this load anyway.
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Got most everything loaded and ready for the road trip tomorrow morning. Brought a set of pallet forks and my home brew 6’ boom attachment. I welded another D ring on the bottom side closer to the at the 60” mark since lifting this pig might be too much at 72” out
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I’m going to push the max load limit out of this trailer for sure. I can fit the lathe sideways on my trailer as it’s perfect width for that… I think. Stealing it down to the deck may prove challenging with the machine, boom and pallet forks on there too.

Machine weighs around 12k and the lathe around 2,500~3,000lbs and two attachments say another 1,000lbs maybe. Trailer is a 16,000 lbs gvwr rating and the hitch carries weight as well. I have the fat 2.5” wide receiver on the truck oem but I have the hitch reduced down. The hitch can handle it as it’s solid steel as welded two ball flip over adjustable style setup. Stupid expensive for it. Around $300 I think. Anyway, this is a 9 hour drive so lots of fun fun to be sure.

Please, no rain Mother Nature ok?
 
I like the patina look on my lathe and mill personally. The paint on that looks to be in pretty good shape honestly.
 
GLTHFJ60 said:
I like the patina look on my lathe and mill personally. The paint on that looks to be in pretty good shape honestly.
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It’s mostly bad around the bottom of the base. Considering the condition of the mill, the paint makes it look much rougher than it actually is. It’s a pretty tight unit with scrape marks on the ways
 
Well Fawk fawk fawk… about two hours away and it dawns on me I forgot my rail road jack. It has a floor toe on it to help lift low to the floor items. So against my grind I found a harbor freight :ack ack ack: store on my route still open. A few hundred $ later I got a cHiNa 10 ton bottle jack with a toe setup. At least it worked out well instead of me fingering it out tomorrow morning. :ack ack ack:!

Grabbing some lunch dinner while I’m stopped too.


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Firstram said:
Looks like it has never fallen over onto its back :smokin:
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Nope, this one hasn’t had the use most all the rest of them had due to the servo motors on it that the controller is missing for. So I think it got passed up for use in classes as it’s not easy to move the x manually because you’re turning the servo motor over same time.
 
Landslide said:
Nope, this one hasn’t had the use most all the rest of them had due to the servo motors on it that the controller is missing for. So I think it got passed up for use in classes as it’s not easy to move the x manually because you’re turning the servo motor over same time.
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Are the servos coupled to the screws full time or are there disconnects? Can the servos just be removed or are the integral to the screw supports and/or preload?


Wish you woulda picked it up last week so you could have checked out the other 3 that closed over the weekend. I was watching them but really don't have the time or energy to run up there to move and load one. The last e-mails I got for them on my watch list, it looked like they were staying right at the $2k opening bid. I can't see them now to check if they even got bids/sold.
 
bgaidan said:
Are the servos coupled to the screws full time or are there disconnects? Can the servos just be removed or are the integral to the screw supports and/or preload?


Wish you woulda picked it up last week so you could have checked out the other 3 that closed over the weekend. I was watching them but really don't have the time or energy to run up there to move and load one. The last e-mails I got for them on my watch list, it looked like they were staying right at the $2k opening bid. I can't see them now to check if they even got bids/sold.
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Yeah, I looked at the other ones there to see how the tail end of the screws were supported. They all had nothing just the end of the screw hanging out there (protected in the housing of course) the servos are full time pinned to the screws via a collar. Easy enough to remove them off of the lathe. I’m going to figure out what they are or what mfger made them to find out if they’re good for a CNC plasma table setup

Those lathes you were looking at did not sell again (third time they were listed before) they are delisted now again. I know one is missing a chuck and one that was close to mine had a dro on it. Beyond that I don’t know their mechanical condition. You can test run one there if you can drive there to inspect them or have someone close by there.

They are going to list up around four or five jet lathes once these finish selling off. But one of the maintenance guys there said they were all problem child lathes always needing repaired. So I’d stay away from them. They looked heavily used too.

Hope that helps you. These leblonds are solid machines and have a crazy resale value up into $6,000~$7,000 plus range. These lathes don’t get run like a job shop or machine shop
 
Landslide said:
Yeah, I looked at the other ones there to see how the tail end of the screws were supported. They all had nothing just the end of the screw hanging out there (protected in the housing of course) the servos are full time pinned to the screws via a collar. Easy enough to remove them off of the lathe. I’m going to figure out what they are or what mfger made them to find out if they’re good for a CNC plasma table setup

Those lathes you were looking at did not sell again (third time they were listed before) they are delisted now again. I know one is missing a chuck and one that was close to mine had a dro on it. Beyond that I don’t know their mechanical condition. You can test run one there if you can drive there to inspect them or have someone close by there.

They are going to list up around four or five jet lathes once these finish selling off. But one of the maintenance guys there said they were all problem child lathes always needing repaired. So I’d stay away from them. They looked heavily used too.

Hope that helps you. These leblonds are solid machines and have a crazy resale value up into $6,000~$7,000 plus range. These lathes don’t get run like a job shop or machine shop
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Having to load yourself is the main reason those aren't selling. 90% of the stuff that sells on govdeals has the "buyer must load" language in it, but if you talk to the actual people on the ground ahead of time, they'll usually tell you that they'll load for you. The horizontal K&T I picked up a couple months ago was like that.....except they made me run the forklift. :lauging:

If would load them, I'd probably pick one or two up, but as they sit, the logistics kills it. That and I'm really holding out of find one of those or a Servoshift that that has a 2.5" or bigger through hole. I wish Duc would have sold me his. Seems like they're unicorns because I haven't seen another one in many years.

I'll have to watch for the jets too. I kind of want a 1440 Jet or similar Taiwanese machine just because they tend to have higher spindle speeds compared to the older iron.



I've only had to load myself one time and it was 3 big zero turn lawnmowers and and absolute pain in the ****. I had to rent a mini skid on the way there or I never would have pulled it off. The dude at the yard was a just a complete **** about it....could have easily sent one of his 3 forklifts over for 10 minutes and knocked it out for me, but told me I was on my own. :shaking:
 
bgaidan said:
Having to load yourself is the main reason those aren't selling. 90% of the stuff that sells on govdeals has the "buyer must load" language in it, but if you talk to the actual people on the ground ahead of time, they'll usually tell you that they'll load for you. The horizontal K&T I picked up a couple months ago was like that.....except they made me run the forklift. :lauging:

If would load them, I'd probably pick one or two up, but as they sit, the logistics kills it. That and I'm really holding out of find one of those or a Servoshift that that has a 2.5" or bigger through hole. I wish Duc would have sold me his. Seems like they're unicorns because I haven't seen another one in many years.

I'll have to watch for the jets too. I kind of want a 1440 Jet or similar Taiwanese machine just because they tend to have higher spindle speeds compared to the older iron.



I've only had to load myself one time and it was 3 big zero turn lawnmowers and and absolute pain in the ****. I had to rent a mini skid on the way there or I never would have pulled it off. The dude at the yard was a just a complete **** about it....could have easily sent one of his 3 forklifts over for 10 minutes and knocked it out for me, but told me I was on my own. :shaking:
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I think the remaining lathes there are a great deal considering these run around $6~7k resale. I ran mine and it was quiet and smooth running.

Biggest issue loading these is the only access is the loading dock. You might be able to move them out the other way through their building but that’s where the other guys laid their lathe over on its face.

The lathe weighs 3,000# so you’ll need something to handle that weight. One thought I had instead of hauling a track loader across the country twice, was to call a tow truck company and schedule them to show up to crane boom it off the dock and onto your trailer.

I’d stay away from the jets from what the maintenance guy said about them but I guess parts are available considering it’s a machine that has several companies names on it like Grizzly etc.
 
Sold my old mill yesterday on FBMP after about being on there for around two weeks. Brought good money for me. About $1,500 more than the cream puff I bought in my shop now.

His pictures at his shop

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Got this big pig on its feet now and where I want it. Now time to level it out
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arse_sidewards said:
Why do you have so many machines in overlapping sizes?
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:confused: I have a nice Bridgeport in recently bought a couple three months ago and just sold my old one.

I have this new to me mill I just got set in place and I’m working on cleaning up my old lathe to list up for sale.

What else are you talking about?
 
I didn't realize that one of the lathes was up for sale. I thought you just had two in mostly overlapping sizes.
 
So, I got my new 10hp North American rotary phase converter wired up and going. There are two huge reasons I really like this converter.

1: I can run smaller than 5hp motors on it without ****ing stuff up. Now, it may be ok on other home brew ones like I built before but I read somewhere that this was something to look out for. The North American rotary phase converter is designed to sense the motor load and adjust to it.

2: this should be #1-10 imo. I had issues with this thing right out the gate. As soon as I turned the breaker on to power this stuff up, the slave motor would start running. Hit the off button on the phase converter box and no response, it would stay running until I turned the breaker off. So, after quad plus times checking my wiring out, I gave up. This was last Saturday mid day.

I told my buddy who bought a 15hp one from them and he told me to give them a call and they’ll respond to me. I said on a weekend?!? He said yep and even on a Sunday. I said “ok” and called them up. After a prompt to an extension, I left a VM. About two or less hours, they called me back. The guy was awesome and walked me through the diagnosis with him. I texted a photo of the inside the box and he zeroed in on a switching block of sorts. Don’t know it’s actual name. I ended up having to take a tiny screw driver to catch the tip under one of the tiny square push in relay things. It was stuck in and it popped out once I got a good bit under it. That fixered it. He made sure I cycle the system several times before he was done. Said if it ever gives me any trouble, they’ll take care of it.

So, I don’t know about any of you guys but, that imo is top A1 after the sale service and I was very impressed. I made sure he knew how thankful I was also taking his time on the weekend to help me out. He really appreciated that as well.

I highly recommend North American rotary phase converters if you’re ever looking for one. You will definitely be getting your money worth on your purchase.

What led me down this route was I couldn’t find any 10hp 3 phase motors used on FBMP cheap or close to me without driving an hour plus one way. And even then, they looked mostly used up and nasty. Anything that looked good was near $800 for it. Fawk that ****.

North American control box is laid out very clean and professional. The Boldar motor is made for North America rotary phase converters also.

So now I got everything wired up and running. My lathe, mill and 20” drill press. I’ll add another machine or three over time. I’d love to get a surface grinder and a shaper someday
 
**** yeah. Customer service on setup is key. I have an American rotary brand one, but similar experience with service. As long as the company supports you, they're worth buying from again.

What are you wiring up to it?
 
GLTHFJ60 said:
**** yeah. Customer service on setup is key. I have an American rotary brand one, but similar experience with service. As long as the company supports you, they're worth buying from again.

What are you wiring up to it?
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I have it wired up to 3 phase plug outlets and so far, I have my Bridgeport mill, LeBlond Regal 15” lathe and 20” powermatic drill press on it. I needed a 10HP for the 5HP lathe motor.
 
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