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    Recommend: FAK

    Looking for a comprehensive FAK to pack for the trail. I have a nice bag for one so piecing one together myself is an option. Always liked Doc’s setups. What would you recommend to pack into it other than Trojans and no fucks given?

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    https://www.sammedical.com/products/sam-xt

    Quality TQ that won't, or shouldn't, fail on you the one time you actually need it.

    https://www.sammedical.com/products/...ng-control-kit

    or i guess they sell a "kit" that has a gauze roll, a TQ and a 6" wrap.

    guess it depends on what you are trying to save, if you have the space https://www.sammedical.com/products/sam-splint a quick splint is handy.

    my personal opinion is that the bleeder stuff is the most important for things that are common camping, hiking, and such. Splint and GPS/emergency signal being up there as well for fancy people.


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      #3
      tampons, quick clot, scissors, super glue, saran wrap + standard kit.... I really don't remember what is all in mine and prolly should go through it to see what I need to replace or add


      "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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        #4
        I have several each is a little different but for the most part they are 3x4x6 packs and have a turniquet, quick clot pack, gauze rolls, sutures, chest seal, small roll of duct tape, ace bandage, first aid shears, triangle bandages, compressed guaze for packing wounds, nasopharyngeal airway and a mouth to mouth mask. Theyre "gunshot" kits but a puncture wound is a puncture wound.
        Last edited by Stuck; 05-29-2020, 09:00 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Stuck View Post
          I have several each is a little different but for the most part they are 3x4x6 packs and have a turniquet, quick clot pack, gauze rolls, sutures, chest seal, small roll of duct tape, ace bandage, first aid shears, triangle bandages, compressed guaze for packing wounds, nasopharyngeal airway and a mouth to mouth mask. Theyre "gunshot" kits but a puncture wound is a puncture wound.
          That’s what tampons are for


          "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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            #6
            tampons made for a shit chest seal and a worse chest decompressor

            it really does come down to how much space and what you 'think' might happen. I'm of the opinion that things will either stop themselves bleeding, or get gauze/TQ and anything else is not going to get addressed. my child, on the other hand, thinks that a papercut that doesn't bleed is just cause for about 5 peel-n-stick band aides


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              #7
              Originally posted by Paragon View Post

              That’s what tampons are for
              Im aware that people use tampons for wound channels but compressed guaze gives you more absorbable material and takes up less space in a small pack. Each compressed guaze pack is equal to about 4 tampons and it does a better job filling wound channels that arent cylindrical. Use what you want I was just listing whats in mine.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Provience View Post
                tampons made for a shit chest seal and a worse chest decompressor

                it really does come down to how much space and what you 'think' might happen. I'm of the opinion that things will either stop themselves bleeding, or get gauze/TQ and anything else is not going to get addressed. my child, on the other hand, thinks that a papercut that doesn't bleed is just cause for about 5 peel-n-stick band aides
                Well yeah. Especially if they have dinos or trucks on them. The cooler the bandaid the exponentially larger the "wound" gets.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Stuck View Post

                  Im aware that people use tampons for wound channels but compressed guaze gives you more absorbable material and takes up less space in a small pack. Each compressed guaze pack is equal to about 4 tampons and it does a better job filling wound channels that arent cylindrical. Use what you want I was just listing whats in mine.
                  I think the applicator makes a tampon useful with some wounds, especially if you are applying it yourself


                  "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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                    #10
                    I start out with a AFAK, then I augment it out with a flexible splint, 2nd bleedstop bandage, 3- 00 suture kits, basic band aids, various meds/ointments and a few burn patches.

                    The whole upgrade doesn't add much weight at all, fits all in a rip away AFAK bag, and gives me everything needed out on the trail/hike/hunting/etc..

                    *edit* this is the unit I started with for one of my rigs, mounted to the cage.

                    https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/...-aid-kit-afak/

                    I replaced the NAR Tourniquet with 2 CAT's mounted on each side of the bag.
                    Last edited by Overbear; 05-30-2020, 08:49 AM.
                    “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”-Thomas Jefferson, 2/10/1814

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                      #11
                      burn patches, or some sort of burn dress, that's a good point. while burns aren't as life threatening as severe bleeding, generally, they are probably about as common as minor bleeding and worth treatment


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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Paragon View Post

                        I think the applicator makes a tampon useful with some wounds, especially if you are applying it yourself
                        Definately. I have several in my big FA bag. I could probably throw 1 or 2 in each IFAK there maybe room. I just never did because there are 2 comp guaze packs in each.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Overbear View Post
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                          https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/...-aid-kit-afak/

                          I replaced the NAR Tourniquet with 2 CAT's mounted on each side of the bag.
                          Those spartan bags are almost exactly the same bag as mine. I dont know the manufacturer I got a couple from work and purchased a couple more through work. Mine all came with a CAT on the side.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stuck View Post

                            Those spartan bags are almost exactly the same bag as mine. I dont know the manufacturer I got a couple from work and purchased a couple more through work. Mine all came with a CAT on the side.
                            I got the Spartan on sale, it was $99 at the time. usually I just buy a empty bag on Amazon, then put in a AFAK refill kit.
                            “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”-Thomas Jefferson, 2/10/1814

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Overbear View Post

                              I got the Spartan on sale, it was $99 at the time. usually I just buy a empty bag on Amazon, then put in a AFAK refill kit.
                              I like their kit. $140 is a little higher than I wanted to pay. May get it in a couple of weeks. Add some extra materials when I get it.

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