ATF changes decision on AR pistol braces

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    #31
    Originally posted by TheFlyingDildocupine View Post

    The ATF as a whole isn't really supposed to make up laws on the fly either, buuuuuut....

    They still don't. They made a determination and it pertains only to the HB.

    My understanding is there is an issue with the way they measured the OAL. They did it diagonally which is incorrect, so much so that they have had at least one case thrown out because of it. Click image for larger version
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      #32
      Originally posted by WaterH View Post
      While I don't own one and don't care much, I still worry about how their doing this. (Pick at our rights till they get to something I care about) Also I don't understand how they can make something illegal and not pay you for it.

      When it comes to SBR's, am I the only one that never understood why they are special?

      Like,

      It doesn't really have anything to do with the power of the gun. (Some handguns are more powerful than SBR's)

      It doesn't really have anything to do with the accuracy of the gun. (Some handguns have better accuracy)

      I can't even say it is about length because if you get a rifle with the chamber in the stock, it's about the same length as a AR SBR.

      I just don't understand how or why that rule got made.
      You need to care even though it doesn't affect you this time. Next time, or the time after that, it might affect you.

      The NFA initially included pistols, but they couldn't get it passed with that on the bill. In the 1930s the $200 was a massive barrier, only someone wealthy could afford to spend that much on a gun that wasn't very useful for hunting.

      Yes the SBR and SBS laws are stupid, but don't think that they won't ruin your life and send you to jail over 1" of barrel length. The ATF has painted themselves into a corner with the brace thing. They are not happy about it, if the Democrats win and take the senate, a new AWB will be passed. They will do whatever it takes to get it. Braces will probably be included in it.

      Trump needs to clean house at the ATF and a bunch of other .gov agencies, but I doubt it will happen. He likes to pay lip service to gun owners, but in the grand scheme of things it is probably pretty low on his list. His candidates to the courts have been good and that is one of the main things.

      The Bushes and other Rinos would and did give gun owners the shaft.
      Last edited by aron82; 4 days ago.

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        #33
        Originally posted by aron82 View Post
        Trump needs to clean house at the ATF and a bunch of other .gov agencies, but I doubt it will happen. His candidates to the courts have been good and that is one of the main things
        Keep packing the courts with conservatives if not libertarians!

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