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    Lightweight hi lift alternatives?

    I've always have a love hate relationship with hi lifts, I honestly usually don't even carry one on the trail. Gotten by with just a factory bottle jack type jack on all but a few occasions.

    Lately its hard to get a group together to go wheelin, so we have been having my wife drive our 4runner and I'll take the Sami. So basically we need to be self sufficient with 2 rigs.

    I have a hi lift but damn I feel like it's a huge weight penalty in the Sami

    I found this

    https://hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/utv-sxs/

    But it basically just looks like a shorter hi lift. It says less than 30 lbs, but from what I can find, the normal 48" is 33 lbs?

    I've always wondered if anyone has tried to make a mostly aluminum one. I'm pretty sure it's very possible for lighter rigs.

    #2
    How much do you want to spend to keep things light? King and FOA make those air shock quick jacks that are pretty cool.



    Id probably skip the FOA version though.

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      #3
      Or this if your just looking to blow stupid money....

      https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/arb-hy...argetid%7D_ARB 4x4 Accessories_ARB1060001_base_US&utm_source=google&u tm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping&emlprox=out&pp cfon=1&gp=1&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI2fOeluK26gIVEdvACh3H nguqEAQYDCABEgJIbPD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!7836!3!2739 07665762!!!g!365198429933!&utm_source=google&utm_m edium=cpc&utm_campaign=SC Shopping - NTM - LIA&ecmp=s:google_1423067984_55636783613__pla-365198429933

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        #4
        I'm not a big fan of hydraulic jacks on the trail. Which is why I like the stock toyota "bottle" jacks that use some type of worm drive. Ive wanted to make a small base for one for a little more lift and stability.

        Edit: the Arb one was the first one I came across. I don't barely have that much into the whole samurai

        Ive been curious about those big air bag deals. They have a lot of advantages over a normal jack. Like working in soft ground, being able to fit under a ~1" gap under a frame and should be stable in the sense where they can't really tip over.

        Obviously they have plenty of downsides too, but they are interesting.
        Last edited by YotaAtieToo; 07-05-2020, 01:50 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
          I'm not a big fan of hydraulic jacks on the trail. Which is why I like the stock toyota "bottle" jacks that use some type of worm drive. Ive wanted to make a small base for one for a little more lift and stability.
          These. That’s all I’m carrying my next big trip. You can get them on eBay for $ 20-40 modify to suit your needs.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Rangerrod View Post

            These. That’s all I’m carrying my next big trip. You can get them on eBay for $ 20-40 modify to suit your needs.
            Damn $20-40? Fuck they came in every toyota from the 80s-2000s and maybe even more. I think Ford, and I'm sure others used something similar.

            From experience they will barely change a 35-36 in stock form on flat ground.

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              #7
              I guess the H1/HMMWV scissor jack is touted as being a good option. Combine it with a Milwaukeeeeeeeeeeeee M18 impact for instant jacking action.

              I've never seen one of those scissor jacks in person, they don't exist as surplus here, and most factory and aftermarket scissor jacks are absolute trash.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Scott Cee aka 2drx4 View Post
                I guess the H1/HMMWV scissor jack is touted as being a good option. Combine it with a Milwaukeeeeeeeeeeeee M18 impact for instant jacking action.

                I've never seen one of those scissor jacks in person, they don't exist as surplus here, and most factory and aftermarket scissor jacks are absolute trash.
                Thanks, now I’m looking at these on eBay, and trying to figure out if it’s worth the $75-90.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
                  I'm not a big fan of hydraulic jacks on the trail. Which is why I like the stock toyota "bottle" jacks that use some type of worm drive. Ive wanted to make a small base for one for a little more lift and stability.

                  Edit: the Arb one was the first one I came across. I don't barely have that much into the whole samurai

                  Ive been curious about those big air bag deals. They have a lot of advantages over a normal jack. Like working in soft ground, being able to fit under a ~1" gap under a frame and should be stable in the sense where they can't really tip over.

                  Obviously they have plenty of downsides too, but they are interesting.
                  A Toyota jack with a drill adapter would be bitchin

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                    #10
                    The Germans make an aluminum one for 1 million euros.
                    https://agm-products.com/collections...th-upgrade-kit

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                      #11
                      The 2 times I've seen the air bad things being used I was really impressed. They still seem dumb and gimmicky though.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 2big bronco View Post
                        The 2 times I've seen the air bad things being used I was really impressed. They still seem dumb and gimmicky though.


                        Can you not pick your samurai up by yourself? I've floped mine back onto its wheels and can pick the entire rear off the ground without to much effort.

                        but I'm really not sure I've ever used a jack on the trail. More likely some combination of ratchet strap to keep suspension from dropping and a boulder to drive up on and lift a wheel.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pitbullcruiser View Post
                          The Germans make an aluminum one for 1 million euros.
                          https://agm-products.com/collections...th-upgrade-kit
                          Originally posted by Pitbullcruiser View Post
                          The Germans make an aluminum one for 1 million euros.
                          https://agm-products.com/collections...th-upgrade-kit
                          At first I thought that was cool.

                          They just make the main rail and handle out of aluminum and just put hilift parts on it. Kinda neat, but not for that price.

                          "66% lighter"? How about and actually weight is it 66% the weight of a normal high lift? Or is it 34%?

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                          Originally posted by 2big bronco View Post



                          Can you not pick your samurai up by yourself? I've floped mine back onto its wheels and can pick the entire rear off the ground without to much effort.

                          but I'm really not sure I've ever used a jack on the trail. More likely some combination of ratchet strap to keep suspension from dropping and a boulder to drive up on and lift a wheel.
                          Ya, you're probably right. ​​​​​​

                          The few times where a hilift really came in handy was something like jacking the rig sideways away from a rock or tree.

                          ​​​​​​​It's more just for the piece of mind on trips where I got the whole family in 2 rigs out in the middle of nowhere.

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                            #14
                            Try welding some telescoping tubes to the bottom of a Toyota screw jack. Add a removable base plate to the bottom of one of the tubes. It would be pretty light and cheap.

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                              #15
                              Just make adapters like these for the Yota jack.

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                              And a base plate like HydroDynamic mentioned above.

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