2003 -2006 RAM 2500 & 3500 with the 5.9L Cummins

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    #16
    what I meant was the AE trans was simply the newest version that was introduced for the 6.7l engines, tho some of the last 5.9's got them, and apparently mine is one of them. That could be incorrect of course - just what I've understood for a while now. As far as how it shifts, mine shifts like warm butter - perfectly smooth and precise, and AFAIK it has ATF in it. I do have a couple gallons of Delvac 50 gear oil I heard was pretty good in them but mine shifts so well I'm not sure I wanna change it.

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      #17
      There were a few threads on this on the old site, most people talk highly of their 3rd gen ram, but I've seen too many stock trucks with engines scattered by 200k, too many injector failures washing out cylinders at 120k, and too many "for sale, all stock, new engine at 124k" 3rd gen dodges to want to mess with them.
      It seems that they might have gotten injector issues sorted out just prior to screwing them all up with emissions.
      You see 400k mile 24v dodges and 7.3 Ford's, and 200k common rails with heads and pistons in milk crates in the bed. No thanks

      this is where everybody that has 140k on there's tells me it's the best truck ever, or somebody didn't change their fuel filters, to me, they're lemons

      about 2015+ they seem well sorted out

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        #18
        projectjunkie, 24v vs 12v?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Projectjunkie View Post

          this is where everybody that has 140k on there's tells me it's the best truck ever, or somebody didn't change their fuel filters, to me, they're lemons
          Lots of personal experience there huh

          The 5.9CR isnt a 6 oh no that will try to kill itself at any moment. The CP3 has proven to be damn reliable, and if you cant tell youre losing an injector (or turbo) then you shouldnt own a diesel. The long block itself it solid. Theres some quirks I hate about the 3rd gen truck and could write a wall off text with the ~400k I've put in the seat. But it would fall on deaf ears.

          You cant go wrong with a clean and stock 5.9CR, 7.3L SD, or LBZ (arguably a LLY too).

          The rest of the trucks are a crap shoot. You may get 20k, or it may run till 400k. After working for CDJ stealership, fuck fiat and any Ram pickup. I saw way too much silly shit make a truck come in on a wrecker.

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            #20
            Originally posted by montrose818 View Post
            projectjunkie, 24v vs 12v?
            It's not uncommon to see 350k 12v or 24v trucks, and occasionally 400k+ of either, the 24v has more electronics, so I'd be wary of a rusty truck, or one that has spliced harness etc. They have lift pump problems that take out injection pumps, but that can be addressed
            you'll pay a premium for a p7100 12v, but could put that money towards a nicer 24v and a lift pump

            Originally posted by TRINDU View Post

            Lots of personal experience there huh

            The 5.9CR isnt a 6 oh no that will try to kill itself at any moment. The CP3 has proven to be damn reliable, and if you cant tell youre losing an injector (or turbo) then you shouldnt own a diesel. The long block itself it solid. Theres some quirks I hate about the 3rd gen truck and could write a wall off text with the ~400k I've put in the seat. But it would fall on deaf ears.

            You cant go wrong with a clean and stock 5.9CR, 7.3L SD, or LBZ (arguably a LLY too).

            The rest of the trucks are a crap shoot. You may get 20k, or it may run till 400k. After working for CDJ stealership, fuck fiat and any Ram pickup. I saw way too much silly shit make a truck come in on a wrecker.
            The funny thing when I share this pinion of these trucks on the net, is the people who own them and are happy with them argue I don't have personal experience.

            Do I have to write the check for a new engine with my own hand to notice a trend? I don't need to marry a stripper to know it's a bad idea

            Before I bought my beater DD, I got on car-part.com and checked supply and demand on engines, transmissions transfer cases and rear differentials. The market says there is little demand for these used components, and that my DD is unlikely to experience a major failure.

            You buy the trucks you want to buy. I ran into another 300k lly this morning, buddy just bought it, ran like a top. Honestly sounded just as smooth as my 106k lly idling next to it. I bought a 300k 12v last week, runs like a top. I'm not spending my money on common rail dodges, but you do you


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              #21
              I had a 97 12v but the rest of the truck is SO outdated and shitty to drive that I sold it. My only reason for going to a newer cummins would be to get an overall better truck - steering, brakes, interior, etc. 2015 is a pretty penny, but if its a better ROI than a 2008 truck, I guess that makes sense

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                #22
                Originally posted by montrose818 View Post
                I had a 97 12v but the rest of the truck is SO outdated and shitty to drive that I sold it. My only reason for going to a newer cummins would be to get an overall better truck - steering, brakes, interior, etc. 2015 is a pretty penny, but if its a better ROI than a 2008 truck, I guess that makes sense
                it did seem they got sorted out 07-08ish then the emissions years fucked up all trucks

                It seemed the problem was with injectors causing internal engine damage. Many will deny any factory shortcomings, but I'm sure somebody somewhere has pinpointed the issues.

                FWIW I'm pretty happy with my clean older trucks, one is low mileage, and prepping for paint, the other has new paint and inteior. Also, I only tow 8-9k lbs regularly, and all of my big dumb loads have been back roads. I could see a guy regularly towing heavier wanting more power, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, factory exhaust brake more gears etc

                I do casually watch and would consider picking up a clean ccsb f250 6.2 gas xlt or higher if I ever really itch for a newer cowboy Cadillac.

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                  #23
                  the problen is that a nice clean older truck is top dollar, and fuck paying 20k for a 23 year old truck. No matter how clean it is, brakes steering and interior still suck.

                  the more time i spend looking and thinking, the more i want a newer truck with an older engine.
                  Last edited by montrose818; 3 days ago.

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                    #24
                    we love our '07 - it has 81,000 miles on the odo and the 5.9 runs like a top, and the G56 shifts like butter. It's 'new' enough to have the creature comforts we want yet also 'old' enough to work on. It's in great overall condition and is about as good a tug boat as we could ask for. To me, all things considered these 06-07 3rd gens with the 5.9 are about as good as it gets, and even if we had the disposable cash to buy a 4th gen I'm really not sure we would - all the electric gismo's and not to mention all the emissions crap just mean more things I have no control over, nor want, and I don't like to fly that way...
                    Last edited by Mad Max; 1 day ago.

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                      #25
                      But the 4th gens look better.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Projectjunkie View Post


                        Do I have to write the check for a new engine with my own hand to notice a trend? I don't need to marry a stripper to know it's a bad idea



                        Of course you dont marry a stripper. You ALWAYS go back to her place. Pretend to be amused by the framed associates degree from university of Phoenix and 3 cats in her apartment. Abuse it, maybe a few more times for good measure, then move on. So basically just like a 300k GM. First impression is it runs and looks good. Then you find out the previous owner(s) wore it out and theres some serious issues about to come out of left field.

                        If you had any first hand experience, youd know this. Instead you just look at the pics online

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                          #27
                          I'm not sure what your point is, was it that you like your cr dodge and I've never owned one? Cuz I addressed that argument earlier


                          you buy your trucks, I'll buy mine

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