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    JK/JL - new vs used?n

    I will probably be getting a manual transmissin JK or JL. It doesnt need to be a rubicon.

    Example would be a 2015 with 40k mikes for 24,500, or a brand new one for $32,000 msrp

    My question is, does it make sense to buy new if those are the prices? I can wait a couple months for lower prices, do dealerships offer good deals? I only dealt with a dealer once, MB, and they knocked alot off the msrp. Never dealt with chrysler.

    #2
    Have you looked into leasing

    As a hater of JKs, and a fresh owner of a 2010 JKU Rubicon... I cant imagine not buying a rubicon.

    From what I gather FCA doesnt offer rebates or the like on wranglers because they sell themselves. Youre basically haggling with the dealer at that point, who doesnt care, 'cause another fag will buy it when you're done screwing around.
    If you vote blue, fuck you.

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      #3
      Originally posted by TRINDU View Post
      Have you looked into leasing

      As a hater of JKs, and a fresh owner of a 2010 JKU Rubicon... I cant imagine not buying a rubicon.

      From what I gather FCA doesnt offer rebates or the like on wranglers because they sell themselves. Youre basically haggling with the dealer at that point, who doesnt care, 'cause another fag will buy it when you're done screwing around.
      I will be using it for a purpose and that purpose is not wheeling it, so i dont want to pay the rubi premium. Isnt it cheaper to upgrade to rubi axles and tcase myself anyway, if i really want to?

      2010 is 10 years old at this point, which is older than Id like.

      Thanka for the other tip, guess that makes sense, its sellers market

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        #4
        Originally posted by montrose818 View Post

        I will be using it for a purpose and that purpose is not wheeling it, so i dont want to pay the rubi premium. Isnt it cheaper to upgrade to rubi axles and tcase myself anyway, if i really want to?

        2010 is 10 years old at this point, which is older than Id like.

        Thanka for the other tip, guess that makes sense, its sellers market
        Quit being so secretive, what's the intended use?
        If you vote blue, fuck you.

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          #5
          Originally posted by TRINDU View Post

          Quit being so secretive, what's the intended use?
          I need something to train people on stick shift. Image is important, I dont live in BFE, and the wrangler would be a great choice. Also may rent it out.

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            #6
            I have never driven a semi or any 2-4 ton trucks newer than '72 how close are the transmissions going to be shifting wise? Obviously the truck will have more gears I mean are new truck transmissions synchronized?
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              #7
              Originally posted by montrose818 View Post

              I need something to train people on stick shift. Image is important, I dont live in BFE, and the wrangler would be a great choice. Also may rent it out.

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              Meh, apples to oranges driving wise. I'm guessing you're an instructor now?
              If you vote blue, fuck you.

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                #8
                Yes instructor. Its actually apples to apples - I mainly need people to learn how to feel the clutch, and to get used to the standard shift pattern. 10 speed truck is gone too, so theres no need for double clutching and feeling the gears either. People that have never operated a clutch of any kind are just horrible in a truck. edit: yes new truck has a synchro trans. Manuals in general ste going away anyway.

                But stick training will be offered as a separate driving course, really if I can book it twice a month, it will cover the payment and get me a spare car to drive.

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                  #9
                  Sounds to me like you want a Jeep and your using that excuse to warrant buying one.

                  If what you stated above is true, wouldn't a 2wd 5spd Taco or Frontier do the same thing and be "presentable" enough? Sure would be cheaper.....

                  Admit it, you want to be one of "them".



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                    #10
                    Ok i admit. I need a reason to buy one. Admitting that im gay wont happen. I need to pass it off as a business idea, investment, something, that wont make me feel like i am "them".

                    Buta wrangler would sell a lot more classes than a taco or a frontier, people absolutely love them here, and i love some of the colors.

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                      #11
                      Well if you want it for yourself first and a training vehicle second I see only one problem with your plan.
                      you're going to be pissed when a student driver is popping / slipping the clutch in it and tearing up your jeep.
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                        #12
                        I bought my wife a dealer demo fully loaded 16 JKUR with 5k miles for a steal from a dealer that couldn't move it because it was a stick. My wife just so happened to only want a manual so it was a win win for me. I watched it for 2.5 months on various car.sales sites before going in and telling them what i was going to pay for it. They laughed, I walked out, drove away, and got a call 15min later to come back and sign the paperwork.

                        You wanting a manual transmission is an advantage when buying a Wrangler. Just remember, the cheaper models will sell regardless of transmission option. Its the higher end models with manual transmissions that are a hard sell. Go big and get yourself a Rubicon model up front. You may not need those options for the business but they are nice to have in a personal vehicle.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by M92PV4U View Post
                          Well if you want it for yourself first and a training vehicle second I see only one problem with your plan.
                          you're going to be pissed when a student driver is popping / slipping the clutch in it and tearing up your jeep.
                          It doesnt compare to doing the same thing in a truck. Once a bellhousing actually broke, causing the clutch to get stuck. Another time clutch literally started falling apart and dropping pieces through thr inspection cover. Nothing they do in that small little gas engine compares remotely close to doing it in a big diesel. New truck clutches dont really slip either, so telling them to "feel" it is difficult when the thing acts like an on/off switch pretty much.

                          ​​​​​I stopped taking on people without stick experience because of this, but like i said, if i can book 2 stick sessions a month (at maybe 450 dollars each, thise are the local prices), regardless of truck students or not, then it pays for itself.

                          Thanks for the tip on buying a loaded model, i was looking at the bare bones models. 50k for a rubi is hard to swallow. What was the offer you made??

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                            #14
                            Is it possible to buy a new one for MSRP? I was looking at the gladiators, online I can build something I would like for $34k. However all of the dealers seem to be much higher given similar options.

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                              #15
                              I bought my wife a Sahara JKU back in 2014, I was looking for a used one, but prices were so similar for New and used, that it made sense to buy new for a few more thousand and have a new warranty and better financing. That being said I did have to deal with about 5 dealers before finding one who would do any negotiating on a new wrangler.
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