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    Does one of the two parties actually represent you?

    I find it astonishing that any of you are a loyal democrat or a loyal republican. What are you basing that on? How is that possible? What is it that you see? I don’t see what you’re seeing. What is It that Democrats or Republicans have done for any of you over the last 30 years that’s made any difference in your lives?
    https://youtu.be/5TiFQikqy1A

    If one or the other is the actual representation that you want then that’s one thing. But the lesser of two evils voters are the one’s who really perpetuate the two party system. Not that the party they voted for represents them, but that the party they voted for is going to get a turn fucking over the other one. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. There’s far more of the lesser of two evils voters than you think. It doesn’t even have to be libertarian, can we all pick one or even make a new third party to push the fucking Democrats and Republicans off to the side? Why not?

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    The only difference between Demorats and Republitards is:

    1.) How they want to spend YOUR money.
    2.) Which of YOUR freedoms they want to restrict.

    Fawk them both.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Eric View Post
      The only difference between Demorats and Republitards is:

      1.) How they want to spend YOUR money.
      2.) Which of YOUR freedoms they want to restrict.

      Fawk them both.
      Yep, they both suck

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        #4
        Originally posted by Eric View Post
        The only difference between Demorats and Republitards is:

        1.) How they want to spend YOUR money.
        2.) Which of YOUR freedoms they want to restrict.

        Fawk them both.
        Pretty much this. Politicians and the general public have become more disconnected than ever before. I truly believe that not a single one of them has "our" best interests in mind, only theirs and the money people that back them....

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          #5
          Originally posted by TheFlyingDildocupine

          Trump has been pretty good about restricting freedoms AND running up the debt faster than all but a couple of his predecessors. The full package one might say.
          Which freedoms have been restricted? Just curious... no judgement.

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            #6
            Originally posted by rockota View Post

            Which freedoms have been restricted? Just curious... no judgement.
            You can't be serious.
            ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
            Live your life as the free human you are. You are beholden to no tyrannical "authority".

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              #7
              I have read up on political parties and candidates, and there are some really good political alignment surveys out there that do a good job of showing which parties you align best with (including 3rd parties). It turns out I align equally poorly with both the Democrat an Republican parties, but I feel more strongly about the things I align with the Republicans on, so when forced to choose between a D and a R, I will always choose the R.

              That said, I agree 90%+ with the Libertarian platform and will vote for a Libertarian candidate any chance I get regardless of whether they stand a snow ball's chance in hell of winning. Issues aren't black or white, and we'll never break free of this bipolar, two-party system until people are willing to do some research and vote for what they believe instead of who they think will win.

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                #8
                Originally posted by '84 Bronco II View Post
                . . . .
                That said, I agree 90%+ with the Libertarian platform and will vote for a Libertarian candidate any chance I get regardless of whether they stand a snow ball's chance in hell of winning. Issues aren't black or white, and we'll never break free of this bipolar, two-party system until people are willing to do some research and vote for what they believe instead of who they think will win.
                Agreed. Which means that we probably need to burn it down (i.e. continue electing Democrats and Republicans) then rebuild. The burn is welll underway. Hopefully the rebuilding can start soon.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wheelin66bronco View Post

                  You can't be serious.
                  Very. People throw the phrase around, often w/o data...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheFlyingDildocupine

                    Bumpstocks and kicking transgender troops out of the service come to mind. They might not be the freedoms you care much about but they're still restricted freedoms.
                    Bumpstocks - yeah... agree on that one.

                    transgender troops - IIRC, that was just reaffirming the current (or then current) policy? Is that incorrect?

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                      #11
                      I've been unaffiliated for most of my voting life, what does that tell you?

                      Originally posted by TheFlyingDildocupine

                      As I understood it the axing of DADT got rid of that policy. The whole circus smelled of pandering to the evangelical crowd.
                      What kind of statement is that? A bullshit kind that smells of pandering to a tiny minority of Freaks.

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                        #12
                        You idiots getting your panties in a bunch over fucking gay as aids bumpstocks need to shut the fuck up..... Seriously

                        He banned a big fat nothingburger instead of anything even remotely close to a gun after the Vegas shooting. You idiots should have been happy about that. Nope, instead you whine and bitch like little kunts over bumpstocks.....

                        Wait until the D's get back in power and your gun right get torn to shreds. I'm betting you fucksticks will all have something legit to cry about then.....

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                          #13
                          I do not agree with the bumpstock ban at all. I'm also not a fan of the imminent domain deal. Why is the Patriot Act still in effect?

                          The Libertarian party doesn't stand a chance until they tone down some of what they're campaigning on. I agree with them on a lot, but selling it to the public at large isn't going to happen. Disbanding the ATF? Heck yeah...the American majority will never go with it, though. Why not start by dismantling it piece by piece. Too much change too fast seems to scare most people. They need to approach the change like that.

                          Libertarians should change their name to the Constitutional Party. I get they reference Liberty, but I really don't think many Americans understand what that is...they're really hung up on democracy.

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                            #14
                            George Carlin said it best.

                            Red. Blue. Doesn't matter. We're all going to get fucked by the red, white, and blue dick.

                            Or something along those lines.

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                              #15
                              Well I am going to say I am disconnected from both. I don't like the idea of having to choose sides. Since trump has took over everything has turned into a "your either on my side or your the enemy" type thing. It may have always been there, but there seemed to at least be some common ground to work with. It seems like there is a bunch of punk ass rich kids arguing over who has the most money up there now. With the biggest pussy of the bunch running the show.

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