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    Cybertruck: no thread here.

    I want one of these bad boys.



    I'm not a Musk fanboi or anything, and electric vehicles leave me flat.

    But for some reason the Cybertruck interests me. They're claiming 500+ mile range, 14,000lb towing, and 3,500 lb payload.

    I feel like they took a lot of the ideas from the Avalanche, which enjoys extremely high customer loyalty and love (and GM of course killed it).



    You don't need a generator, on-board air, and without self-driving it is listed at $69,000 for the tri-motor one.

    The bed locks up, you can walk on the tonneau cover which rolls up creating a 'vault'. The inside is spacious, it has good approach and departure angles, and breakover is decent for a big pickup.

    The body and doors are bulletproof to 'handgun bullets', I'm assuming 9mm, I wonder if 10mm or .40 or .44 Mag? No way .44 Mag I'd guess.

    The glass is Tesla's patented armored glass.

    For 14,000 lb towing, which is 3/4 ton Diesel territory, 3,500 lb payload, and 2.9 sec 0-60, I think $70k is a great deal.

    For $78k you get self-driving mode as well, which should be greatly improved.

    Like you could go hunting and if you got a deer, you could summon your Cybertruck to come and get you instead of dragging a deer carcass around.

    I want this fucking thing pretty bad, I wonder if our divorce from the disgusting and evil Chinese will muck up the plans? I want a bulletproof, 2.9 0-60, 3/4 pickup truck that has on-board air and which can run all of my appliances for a long weekend.

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    It also has air suspension on all 4 corners, and squats down. The tailgate has a ramp in it, and they're even coming out with a quad for it.

    This is all shit that the Big 3 should have done like 25 years ago, especially the squatting down.

    I hope Musk fucks them up, modern Big 3 trucks have been stagnant for a while. Ford went aluminum and I feel that was a weaksauce move. I guess redneck fags want more gay gizmos and electronic screems for their brodozers.

    I want an armored, stainless-steel, bulletproof truck with real convenience features that squats down for me.

    I feel that Musk has totally eclipsed the Big 3 with this. They are lazy and deserve a beating. Not even Toyota could make real inroads to American pickups, and I hope another American pickup actually does, or gets them to do something. PIckups have been boring for about 10 years now.

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      #3
      they are competing with people that buy honda ridgelines and bro-dozers. it isn't intended to replace people who actually use trucks for truck things. the people who don't care about the gizmos and shit, will still go buy a white F150 with vinyl floor to load 2 pallets of concrete in the back


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        #4
        It sure is fugly. Not useful for me either.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Provience View Post
          they are competing with people that buy honda ridgelines and bro-dozers. it isn't intended to replace people who actually use trucks for truck things. the people who don't care about the gizmos and shit, will still go buy a white F150 with vinyl floor to load 2 pallets of concrete in the back
          Un-optioned domestic pickups are an extreme rarity in non-fleet applications.

          The vast majority of pickups are now occupying the space that Personal Luxury Cars like the Thunderbird used to occupy. Using your pickup on the weekend for a boat or camper is a personal luxury. These are daily-drivers with the XLT, Lariat, Harley Davidson, and King Ranch making up a huge, huge portion of private sales.

          So I say that yes, these are aimed at the majority of pickup buyers who do not take the quite considerable time and trouble to option out floor mats and an infotainment system.

          AFAIK you can't option out a carpeting AND have a locker on a Ford truck. Same thing with skid plates: If you get a skid plate, it auto-options the 101A equipment group: Geegaws and gizmos. You can't de-select it.

          You can't say that's Ford, because GM and Dodge are the same way.

          Pickups are now a luxury vehicle. Have been for oh I'd say 10 years, definitely the last 5.

          As you know, you used to be able to option a straight-6, automatic, bench seat, no headliner, no a/c, no power windows/locks, no cruise Custom pickup. That's not even possible now. They don't even sell wind up windows afaik.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Provience View Post
            they are competing with people that buy honda ridgelines and bro-dozers. it isn't intended to replace people who actually use trucks for truck things. the people who don't care about the gizmos and shit, will still go buy a white F150 with vinyl floor to load 2 pallets of concrete in the back
            So, Mexicans?

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              #7
              Looks like the designers really enjoyed the old starfox video game.

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                #8
                Originally posted by idahojeep View Post
                It sure is fugly. Not useful for me either.
                The electricity isn't useful? Because the ramp and squatting are definitely useful. And if the ramp isn't, that means you tow something, so the adjustable ride height is.

                Rams offer an adjustable air suspension on the rear for $1,500, but it doesn't squat way down afaik, it's just normal air ride.

                The Tesla, you can give it looks like about an 8" lift. Land Rovers do that but it's 4" I think.

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                  #9
                  I'll argue strongly that pickups realized they were luxury vehicles when they introduced the true 4 door half ton and lighter vehicles in the mid 90's or so. I'm not in the least concerned that tesla will cut in to their sales, have at it.

                  of course, i'm old and grumpy there is a chance it will bring back quality cheap trucks that don't have all that gizmo shit. slim though that chance may be.


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                    #10
                    Originally posted by evernoob View Post

                    Un-optioned domestic pickups are an extreme rarity in non-fleet applications.

                    The vast majority of pickups are now occupying the space that Personal Luxury Cars like the Thunderbird used to occupy. Using your pickup on the weekend for a boat or camper is a personal luxury. These are daily-drivers with the XLT, Lariat, Harley Davidson, and King Ranch making up a huge, huge portion of private sales.

                    So I say that yes, these are aimed at the majority of pickup buyers who do not take the quite considerable time and trouble to option out floor mats and an infotainment system.

                    AFAIK you can't option out a carpeting AND have a locker on a Ford truck. Same thing with skid plates: If you get a skid plate, it auto-options the 101A equipment group: Geegaws and gizmos. You can't de-select it.

                    You can't say that's Ford, because GM and Dodge are the same way.

                    Pickups are now a luxury vehicle. Have been for oh I'd say 10 years, definitely the last 5.

                    As you know, you used to be able to option a straight-6, automatic, bench seat, no headliner, no a/c, no power windows/locks, no cruise Custom pickup. That's not even possible now. They don't even sell wind up windows afaik.
                    You can buy a platinum with vinyl floors.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by idahojeep View Post
                      It sure is fugly. Not useful for me either.
                      I think so too. It's like the tried to make the ugliest thing possible and still limit it's usefulness.

                      I think the Rivian is a better overall truck if you're looking for an electric vehicle.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by not2hye View Post
                        You can buy a platinum with vinyl floors.
                        True, but you can't get skid plates without 101A, a $2,280 option which includes SYNC, backup camera, automatic headlamps, auto wipers, pre-collision emergency braking, Curve Control, Ride Stability Control, SOS crash alert, TPMS, and then a bunch of other shit which might be useful to a workman like A/C and cruise.

                        In other words, you can't have a useful jobsite truck without all of those gizmos.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wheelerfreak View Post

                          I think so too. It's like the tried to make the ugliest thing possible and still limit it's usefulness.

                          I think the Rivian is a better overall truck if you're looking for an electric vehicle.
                          In terms of fugly, the Rivian is far worse. Looks like they took a conventional pickup and tried to make it look like a Studebaker, but not in a good way.



                          That thing is hideous, and it has none of the cool features of the Cybertruck. If I want an electrick pickup, I would wait for Ford to release one in late 2021, or better yet get the hybrid net year.

                          The Cybertruck has all kinds of neat capabilities this thing doesn't have. Basically you're getting a pickup from people with no experience, no thanks. Tesla has years of making cars under their belt and their truck is different enough to warrant the move.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by evernoob View Post
                            AFAIK you can't option out a carpeting AND have a locker on a Ford truck. Same thing with skid plates: If you get a skid plate, it auto-options the 101A equipment group: Geegaws and gizmos. You can't de-select it.
                            I have that truck, F350, vinyl floors, cloth seats, locker, not the electronics geegaw package, skidplates, transfer case shifter lever, manual hubs, etc. Might have changed since mine was built, but I do have it sitting in my driveway.

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                              #15
                              If your good with a battery powered truck, do you really need a truck?

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