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    Scotus

    I heard a conservative law professor claim that the Supreme Court rulings this week will cost Trump the election.

    His rational was, Supreme Court appointments were many peoples number one reason for voting for the Republican candidate. They may not have liked Trump as a candidate, but they were unwilling to let the Judge picks to go to Hillary.

    With the court ruling on civil rights protection for LGTBQ, and now DACA, that he has failed to provide a conservative court.

    Will it matter enough to shift the election?

    Keep in mind that Trump did not win the popular vote.

    Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to win. Out of those he won by 110,000 votes TOTAL between the 3 states. It wasn't a land slide.

    If they flip Texas, Florida, Or any one of a number of states, Creepy Uncle Joe will be the man.

    (And BETO told us a lot about Texas if we are honest enough to listen)

    #2
    The fact that a supposed Conservitive judge flipped and voted with the liberals is nothing new. It something in the air or water

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      #3
      Originally posted by xXClamhammer69Xx

      The "firing people because you don't like who they sleep with is a dick move, dude" ruling was 6/3.

      They are talking about the DACA decision today. Keep up!

      I think Roberts likes being the swing vote a little too much for my tastes.

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        #4
        Originally posted by grumpy356 View Post
        Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to win. Out of those he won by 110,000 votes TOTAL between the 3 states. It wasn't a land slide.

        If they flip Texas, Florida, Or any one of a number of states, Creepy Uncle Joe will be the man.

        (And BETO told us a lot about Texas if we are honest enough to listen)
        You're 100% right. I just don't see how Trump will pull off a victory considering how close those states were and how the country's mood has shifted. The suburban women seem to have abandoned him. Even as someone that voted for him I get tired of his near constant buffoonery and inability to do much more than bluster. He's become that crazy parent that no one listens to anymore.

        All I can hope for is that the Senate remains GOP and even that is in doubt.

        Will there be a reaction from the moderates because of all the lawlessness we're seeing right now? Will the "silent majority" speak up? I hope so but who the hell knows?
        Bunch of old crap.

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          #5
          SCOTUS ruling on DACA made zero legal sense. SCOTUS is broken.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Norm View Post
            SCOTUS ruling on DACA made zero legal sense. SCOTUS is broken.
            I've said it before, but Supreme court is only right because they are last. They are not last because they are right.


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              #7
              Originally posted by bigun View Post
              The fact that a supposed Conservitive judge flipped and voted with the liberals is nothing new. It something in the air or water
              More likely pictures of him in a compromising situation.

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                #8
                Been saying that since the Texas election. Beto almost won. Let that sink in. I've been noticing a lot of liberal shift here, obviously we left the border open way too long to yankees and Californians. Texas will turn blue soon. When Texas turns blue, the balance shifts and we're lost. The progressives played a long game starting with Wilson and the conservatives and libertarians have been happy with the scraps and fighting little battles. The war is almost over and we didn't even know we were in one. Will Trump win? Maybe, maybe not. But this was has already been won by the progressive movement. All that's left is to mark the date.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by xXClamhammer69Xx
                  Trump twatting out about how the military needs to crush protests is not helping his standing with the moderates.

                  And of course the Bolton book, ooooh-weeee, if even 1/10 of that is true he's fucked. We get to add "first clinically senile president" to the list of democrat accomplishments.



                  Riddle me this: why should kids be liable for the actions of their parents? DACA doesn't give them automatic citizenship either.
                  From a legal standpoint, being here illegally doesn’t have a age limitation. There is no legal protection for them aside from an executive order.


                  what’s legally right and what you might think is morally right don’t and won’t always agree.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dead Pool View Post
                    Been saying that since the Texas election. Beto almost won. Let that sink in. I've been noticing a lot of liberal shift here, obviously we left the border open way too long to yankees and Californians. Texas will turn blue soon. When Texas turns blue, the balance shifts and we're lost. The progressives played a long game starting with Wilson and the conservatives and libertarians have been happy with the scraps and fighting little battles. The war is almost over and we didn't even know we were in one. Will Trump win? Maybe, maybe not. But this was has already been won by the progressive movement. All that's left is to mark the date.
                    Texas isn't some Republican strong hold. Texas has had 4 Republican governors, well 5 if you count Elisha Pease in the late 1860's who I believe was appointed, not elected. That's it!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by xXClamhammer69Xx

                      That was the whole argument with the supreme court. And most of them agree that maybe deporting people who were dragged here as kids is a bit of an asshole move.
                      Doing the right thing morally is not the job of SCOTUS, applying the constitution to laws is the job of SCOTUS. See the difference?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Norm View Post
                        SCOTUS ruling on DACA made zero legal sense. SCOTUS is broken.
                        as evidenced by the recent "we're not touching the 2nd amendment with a ten foot pole" stance they've adopted.
                        Penguins can't fly, I can't fly, therefore I am a penguin.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by xXClamhammer69Xx

                          And where in the constitution does it say that the feds shall hold children liable for the actions of their parents?
                          You did not answer my question. Where exactly in the constitution is there a law that allows minors to immigrate outside of our normal immigration laws?



                          Clue - no where. And SCOTUS can not make laws .

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                            #14
                            SCOTUS seems to have stepped away from "this law, as written, is unconstitutional" to "we're going to amend the law with an opinion."

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by xXClamhammer69Xx

                              That's not how the constitution works. It was meant as an inclusive list of the powers of the feds and a partial list of state powers, with anything unmentioned in the document being reserved for the states.
                              HUH?


                              What does that have to do with the question...

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