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    New York Limo Crash

    Did anything definitive ever come up about the crash?


    "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

    #2
    Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
    What difference at this point does it make?
    because it was a coordinated attack on what amounts to be a temporary US Embassy, not a protest about some book


    "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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      #3
      ~Schoharie Limo Crash: NTSB Says Seat Belts Might Have Saved Lives~

      A Federal report released by the National Transportation Safety Board says proper seating & seat belts might have saved the lives of the passengers in the horrific limousine crash Oct. 8th 2018 in Schoharie, NY.

      The 2001 Ford Excursion SUV stretch limo was well traveling over 50 mph when it ran a stop sign and crashed into a parked 2015 Toyota Highlander before colliding into an embankment on the far side of a ravine. As a result of the crash, 20 people died including all 17 limousine passengers on a birthday leisure trip, the driver, and 2 people standing near the Highlander.

      The NTSB's report includes the first publicly released photos.

      The damage was too intense in the front seat for the driver to survive, but not in the passenger section, federal officials said.

      However, the installation of bench seats was inadequate, the lap belts were inadequate & improperly positioned, and that the passengers didn't put the inadequate belts on. The seat belts were under the bench seat & invisible, the NTSB said....

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        Examination of three other similar limousines used by Prestige Limousine showed that, in the perimeter bench seats, the lap belts were also under the seats, rendering them inaccessible to passengers. After the Schoharie crash, NTSB investigators had to remove the bench seats to gain access to the seat belts.

        Inspection of the other limousines owned by Prestige Limousine and visits to other limousine companies indicated that seat belts in the non-OEM perimeter seating areas are often not accessible to passengers.

        * Among the NTSB's other findings:

        ~ The 2001 Ford Excursion was significantly modified. It was stretched 144 inches and the interior in the stretched region was reconfigured with perimeter-style bench seating.

        ~ The NTSB found the side- and rear-facing bench seats failed in the direction of crash forces and that the strength of these seats and their anchorages were inadequate during the crash. In comparison, the original Ford passenger seats in the rear of the vehicle remained attached to the floor and intact.

        NTSB officials said the New York Transportation Department should, in the regular inspection process, make sure all limo seat belts are accessible & functional. The NTSB also reiterated an earlier recommendation that the state pass legislation that provides for primary enforcement of a mandatory seat belt use law for all vehicle seating positions equipped w/passenger restraint system, including passenger seats in limousines.

        The DOT issued a statement in response. Commissioner Marie Therese Dominguez said: "The NTSB recommended that New York incorporate the inspection of seatbelts for functionality and accessibility into the NYSDOT biannual vehicle inspection process -- something that in fact has been standard protocol in our process since the early 1990s and are incorporated into the Code of Rules & Regulations for New York State. The seatbelt requirement has been a top priority of this administration to ensure safety on our roads. This past January, as part of the State Budget, Governor Cuomo put forth strong legislation requiring that all occupants of all vehicles wear seatbelts - the third year in a row in which he called for strengthening the state's seat belt laws. It is extremely unfortunate these important measures have been repeatedly rejected by the legislature. We urge all lawmakers to join this crucial public safety effort and finally pass the requirement into law during the next session."

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          The NTSB also called for new national requirements for seating and seatbelt systems on limousines. The recommendations:

          ~The National Highway Traffic safety Administration require lap/shoulder belts for each passenger seating position on all new vehicles modified to be used as limousines.

          ~ The NHTSA also require seating in these vehicles to meet minimum performance standards to ensure their integrity during a crash. "It's disheartening to learn that some passenger vehicles are legally on the road that don't offer passengers well-designed seats & seat belts," said NTSB Chairman Robert L. Sumwalt. "All vehicle occupants should have the same level of protection, wherever they are seated. And everyone should use seatbelts whenever they are available."

          The Schoharie limo hadn't been properly registered, had not been certified, and had been ordered out of service by a DOT inspector for various safety problems according to the Albany Times Union.

          Criminal and civil cases are in the courts. The operator of Prestige Limousine, Nauman Hussain, faces 40 counts of second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. A local Mavis branch(Auto tyre & brake shop) that inspected the limo has also been sued by family members, the Albany Times Union reports.

          The New York State police said the Schoharie crash was caused by catastrophic brake failure, but the NTSB said it had not reached that conclusion and would continue the investigation.

          Written by Lanning Taliaferro-

          The NTSB also called for new national requirements for seating and seatbelt systems on limousines. The recommendations:

          ~The National Highway Safety Administration require lap/shoulder belts for each passenger seating position on all new vehicles modified to be used as limousines.

          ~The NHTSA also require seating systems in these vehicles to meet minimum performance standards to ensure their integrity during a crash. "It's disheartening to learn that some passenger vehicles are legally on the road that don't offer passengers well-designed seats and seatbelts," said Robert L. Sumwalt. "All vehicle occupants should have the same level of protection, wherever they are seated. And everyone should use seatbelts whenever they are available."

          The Schoharie limo hadn't been properly registered, had not been certified, and had been ordered out of service by a DOT inspector for various safety reasons, according to the Albany Times Union.

          Criminal and civil cases are in the courts. the operator of Prestige Limousine, Nauman Hussain, faces 40 counts of second degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homcide. A local Mais branch(Auto tyre & brake shop) that inspected the limo has been sued by family members, the Times Union reports.

          The New York State police said the Schoharie crash was caused by catastrophic brake failure, but the NTSB said it had not reached that conclusion & would continue the investigation.

          Written by Lanning Taliaferro


          *Edit to get rid of empty space below*
          Last edited by det107; 06-14-2020, 08:11 AM.

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            #6
            ~Jacobson praises new stretch limo legislation~

            Assemblymember Jonathan G. Jacobson (D-104) is praising a new package of legislation regulating the stretch limousine industry. In response to the tragic 2018 crash in Schoharie, the legislation passed both the Assembly and Senate this week.

            Jacobsonsaid, "I am proud to have co-sponsored this much-needed legislation. For too long, stretch limousines have occupied a regulatory no-man's land. Moving forward, passengers can be confident that the vehicle they or their loved ones are riding in will get them safely to their destination."

            The limousine regulations and passenger safety legislation includes:

            ~A712-A Drug and Alcohol testing: This bill requires pre-employment and random drug/alcohol testing in large for-hire vehicles.

            ~A9058 Commercial GPS Requirements: This bill requires stretch limousines to use commercial GPS devices to assist them in using roads that are best suited for their vehicles.

            ~A8172-B Increased penalties for Illegal U-Turns: This bill expands the U-turn ban to stretch limousines capable of carrying nine or more passengers, including the driver, and increases the financial and criminal penalties for drivers making illegal U-turns.

            ~A9057 Seatbelt Requirements: This bill requires stretch limousines to be equipped with seatbelts for every passenger for which this vehicle is rated. This includes a requirement for stretch limousines to be retrofitted with seatbelts no later than January 1, 2023, and for any stretch limousine modified on or after January 1, 2021 to be equipped with seatbelts.

            ~A8990 Seatbelt Requirements: This bill requires taxi or livery passengers 16 and older to wear seatbelts regardless of their seating position and prohibit a person from operating the taxi or livery unless all passengers between the ages of eight and 15 are wearing seatbelts.

            ~A9056 Immobilization of Defective Limos: This bill authorizes the department of Transportation (DOT) to immobilize or impound a stretch limousine that fails DOT safety inspections and place them out of service.

            ~A8474-A Commercial Driving "Endorsement" Requirement: Relates to stretch limousine safety and changes the class of license required and capable to operate such limousine with nine or more passengers.

            ~A8214-B Customer Service Requirements: Relates to requiring the commissioner to establish methods of reporting safety issues with limousines. DOT and DMV have a hotline and website to report infractions.

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              #7
              Wikipedia has pics under Schoharie limousine crash...

              Not sure of date of accident, 2 reportedly on Oct. 6th & Oct. 8th-

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                #8
                Originally posted by Hillary Clinton
                What difference at this point does it make?
                You're still not my president.

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                  #9
                  ~Agencies blamed in limo horror ~

                  The wedding-limo crash that killed 20 people in upstate Schoharie in 2018 was partly caused by do-nothing regulators from two state agencies, the NTSB said in its final report Tuesday.

                  Workers at the Dept of Transportation (DOT) and the Dept of Motor Vehicles (DMV) failed to act on a slew of violations, including some involving the limo's faulty brakes, while the vehicle's owner showed an "egregious disregard for safety," the report said.

                  "Seventeen young people made the smart, safe decision to arrange for sober transportation when celebrating," Michael Graham, a National Transportation Safety Board member, said during an on-line hearing, referring to the limo occupants who died along with their hired driver & two people hit by the limousine.

                  "They put their trust & safety into a system designed to protect them, and it failed."

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