Christopher Columbus: good or bad?

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    Christopher Columbus: good or bad?

    My wife and I got into it a little this morning. Started with a news clip of a destroyed Christopher Columbus statue. When I was in school, we were never taught about the raping and murder that he committed, or that he was a symbol of racism. I knew that the ships that landed were filled with plagues and sicknesses that the natives had never been exposed to and that caused some issues.

    My wife (11 years younger than me) was taught that he was a horrible person, as well as his crews, and does not deserve to be looked at as a positive symbol of anything. In fact, he was a demon and should be treated as such.

    Am I really that out of touch with history? Or has history been changed to reflect new(ish) findings?

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    The dude wasn't anything special for the time in which he lived. He wasn't particularly "woke" nor was he particularly brutal. All the shit he gets in modern blue state history textbooks is revisionist history crap.

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      #3
      Repent for your colonialist ancestors!

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        #4
        Originally posted by 4x4orbust View Post
        My wife and I got into it a little this morning. Started with a news clip of a destroyed Christopher Columbus statue. When I was in school, we were never taught about the raping and murder that he committed, or that he was a symbol of racism. I knew that the ships that landed were filled with plagues and sicknesses that the natives had never been exposed to and that caused some issues.

        My wife (11 years younger than me) was taught that he was a horrible person, as well as his crews, and does not deserve to be looked at as a positive symbol of anything. In fact, he was a demon and should be treated as such.

        Am I really that out of touch with history? Or has history been changed to reflect new(ish) findings?
        Orwell was a prophet, and Winston Smith (or at least his job) is real.
        So
        Read 1984.
        Last edited by U.P. Jeep; 06-10-2020, 08:47 AM.

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          #5
          https://youtu.be/xBzoBgfm55w
          :ogre:

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            #6
            Columbus was a fraud, though few (including him) knew it at the time. Now we know who really discovered the "New World".
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              #7
              Originally posted by Elwenil View Post
              Columbus was a fraud, though few (including him) knew it at the time. Now we know who really discovered the "New World".
              Meh, he wasn't looking for the new world. He was looking for silver.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Elwenil View Post
                Columbus was a fraud, though few (including him) knew it at the time. Now we know who really discovered the "New World".
                Damn right, the vikings.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Action Fab View Post

                  Meh, he wasn't looking for the new world. He was looking for silver.
                  Nope he was looking for a way to India because the muslems had blocked the land route. That is why he called the people on the islands indians.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Deuce 40s View Post

                    Damn right, the vikings.
                    Yep, I'll give credit for them finding Canada-

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                      #11
                      It is revisionist history. He was looking for an alternative route to India for trading. CAPITALISM!

                      People had no concept of germs and immunity back then. He did not intentionally set out to burn down the new world and kill its people. Different times, different actions, different morals.

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                        #12
                        At this point, what difference does it make? It's in the past. Look at the writers of the 'news' today. You realize that these lies are what will be read by future generations as history, right? It's likely that everyone alive today was 'taught' lies and propaganda in school. For me, global cooling and the "coming ice age" come to mind. Everything you ever learned was a lie and you just need to let it go, do your best, and die with dignity. FTW. If you could teach your kids some critical thinking skills before you go, that would be nice, too. Unless you want them to be happy. If you want them to be happy, they might not want to realize what is going on. Ignorance is bliss. I don't fucking know. Where's my coffee? Fuck.

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                          #13
                          Neither Columbus nor the vikings discovered shit if there were already people here.

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