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    Classic Car market

    Not the museum quality, ultra rare, dont rack up the miles car market, but the bring a trailer, nice survivor, affordable to the average joe market.


    Where do you see it going specifically?

    #2
    80s cash for clunkers cars

    Becoming harder to find

    Some have good style some have decent power
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    Nothing is for sale man, I’m a curator of the finest junk.

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      #3
      I see it going down, I sold my EBs, 70s ford trucks and mustang fast back

      haggertty I think it is tracks all this stuff from auction results and 9 out of 10 categories were trending down before the fake flu

      When times get tough all those "nevva gunna sellit" cars go up for sale real fast so they can make 2 more tahoe payments

      I imagine by Christmas you'll see a lot of stalled project cars, even drivers, early corvettes, Broncos, 67-72 Chevys, start hitting Craigslist

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        #4
        Originally posted by Arickvan View Post
        80s cash for clunkers cars

        Becoming harder to find

        Some have good style some have decent power
        My worry with those cars is in how poorly they are aging. Especially the obd1 vacuum spaghetti EFI cars.

        The late 60's through mid 70's land yacht with massive amounts of architecture are currently catching my attention.

        But I'm curious to hear the opinions.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Projectjunkie View Post
          I see it going down, I sold my EBs, 70s ford trucks and mustang fast back

          haggertty I think it is tracks all this stuff from auction results and 9 out of 10 categories were trending down before the fake flu

          When times get tough all those "nevva gunna sellit" cars go up for sale real fast so they can make 2 more tahoe payments

          I imagine by Christmas you'll see a lot of stalled project cars, even drivers, early corvettes, Broncos, 67-72 Chevys, start hitting Craigslist
          I think we agree. Do you think the market will come back? Because I think it will, but in a new way.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Arickvan View Post
            80s cash for clunkers cars

            Becoming harder to find

            Some have good style some have decent power
            Pretty much this but...

            There are a lot of us looking into that market with the $$$ to spend, to make it worse there is a huge segment of Youtube dedicated to this very thing. I see the market for anything remotely cool from the 80's rising over the next few years. I myself am looking for British or German stuff while it's still reasonable.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Projectjunkie View Post
              I see it going down, I sold my EBs, 70s ford trucks and mustang fast back

              haggertty I think it is tracks all this stuff from auction results and 9 out of 10 categories were trending down before the fake flu

              When times get tough all those "nevva gunna sellit" cars go up for sale real fast so they can make 2 more tahoe payments

              I imagine by Christmas you'll see a lot of stalled project cars, even drivers, early corvettes, Broncos, 67-72 Chevys, start hitting Craigslist
              Agree, although I was of a mind it would be happening right about now. Guess I was wrong, thanks various .gov money bags.

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                #8
                since before i bought my 1940 body to try and build a rock crawler with, i've been halfassedly watching 'tween war cars as *one of these days* i'm going to pick up one for a daily driver.

                seems like they are going back up the last couple years, even the less desireable models. None seem to be at their ~2006 or whatever it was peak, but they certainly aren't going down any more. All driver quality, older restores, projects, those things. pretty easily seems like a ~15% increase over the last year. maybe they aren't selling for what they are asking, but the cheap end of decent doesn't seem to be dropping.


                Up is difficult, down is dangerous

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Projectjunkie View Post
                  , start hitting Craigslist
                  i'm curious where they are going to pop up.

                  craigslist and facebook market are both pretty shit these days. i'd love to see an autotrader resurgence.


                  Up is difficult, down is dangerous

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Action Fab View Post

                    My worry with those cars is in how poorly they are aging. Especially the obd1 vacuum spaghetti EFI cars.

                    The late 60's through mid 70's land yacht with massive amounts of architecture are currently catching my attention.

                    But I'm curious to hear the opinions.
                    land yachts are fucking awesome big block and a carbermater, EPA be damned.


                    Up is difficult, down is dangerous

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Action Fab View Post

                      I think we agree. Do you think the market will come back? Because I think it will, but in a new way.
                      Well, first off, I think we're going to have a 2nd great depression soon, and just about everything will go down in price, I sold my toys at what I figured was the top, over the last 2 years, I'll buy equipment and a home when prices fall, then buy up any toys I may want.

                      Aside from my speculation, there's trends.

                      After 2008 crash, cars got pushed hard on subprime borrowers, in 2007, everybody got a house, I 2017 everybody got a brand new quad cab truck or sports package sedan, and rented a house with their friends.

                      Car prices got jacked up, this also made a mini boom in people restoring junk nobody wanted, if a new base v6 f150 is 32k, people start putting $700 paint jobs on 87 rangers that we were crushing 5 years earlier

                      now everybody has cars out the wazoo, and now we have 20% unemployment and a shit ton of people working from home, we have a huge supply of cars all the way from brand new cars down to the $500 beater that a teenager would buy, but there's no job for him right now, so those go no bid too.

                      so the collector cars get turned out, nobody turns in the Denali and starts driving the K5 again, they dump that to buy time, they swore they'd never sell, but they fold when the first pink letter comes.

                      the collector cars don't get the interest because buyers are scared, or waiting for a better deal. The collector cars don't get the interest, because, like bare land vs house, in a hot market, you add value by improving, in a buyers market, it's cheaper to just buy a completed one.

                      Now you've got regular guys, I want something cool, 67 cougar, 78-79 bronco, 67-79 ford crew cab, 99 2 door tahoe, etc
                      but.....
                      when those 2017 f150s and f250s with air conditioned seats start dropping like rocks, I'm going to have a hard time not stepping up my daily driver or tow rig, I think there's a lot of guys in the same boat

                      I've seen some trends thru the last crash, prior to it, all the sales reps drove crew cab 4wd diesels, usually with leveling kit, wheels and tires and exhaust.

                      that was also a pretty universal status symbol around here

                      afterwards, all the sales reps drove new half ton crew cabs, nice clean and new, but it was a distinct change

                      If you follow the "what tow rig to buy" threads, you'll hear a lot of guys bragging about how their 2008-2013 diesel truck held its value. Well, they couldn't sell them then, and they were 30-35k new, then the bankers printed a fuckton of money and handed out auto loans like candy and ran 2018 Fidel crew cabs up to 70k, so if your 2011 isn't hammered, it is still worth as many paper dollars as it was in 2011, just the paper dollars are worth half as much.

                      Also on collector cars, there's a trend that follows age, 80s cars are popular, before that it was 70s cars, before 60s, 50s, guys get middle age, get some money together and have the desire and means to relive their youth, or have the car they wanted,

                      so Action, what's your thoughts?

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                        #12
                        My first vehicle was a '72 Scout II that my father bought new for like $9k. I still have it but its been sitting for about 20 years. Totally restorable though. For shits and giggles I surfed e-bay motors. Holy fawk. Mint condition low mileage Scouts are fetching $30k and more which is twice what I was seeing the last time I checked a few years ago.
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                          #13
                          I had a ‘66 GTO that I sold a few years ago because I was getting into rock crawling. I was the second owner (documents to prove it too) the car was perfect except for some half-assed repairs done to the rear corners years before I bought it. Sometime last year I was bored and started poking around the internet and found my car for sale. It was listed for $30k more than what I sold it for, and it was in the same exact condition I sold it in

                          The market can do crazy things
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                            #14
                            Wife has a steel 32 coupe (was her dads) LS, ac, ifs, total driver/power tour car. About 8 years ago a guy offered her $50k and while it wasn't a lowball it was low.

                            Fast forward to now... its been for sale for a year low 30's and its still sitting.

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                              #15
                              My EB is appreciating about 1k a year just sitting under a tarp from what I see everytime I see them for sale.

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