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    Apple MacBook people, please help me choose which one out of these two

    I'm not an Apple guy, need advice from Apple folks. And even those who are PC based may see which is a cleqar winner.

    About to go in and get one of these in two hours time.

    Use: Shared Macbook, bewteen two of us here.
    My 15yr old daughter for school.
    Me for running Xcode 11 - That's all for me.

    It's 6am in the morning here, and Apple's choice here has me stumped I'm not ringing up friends now

    I've highlighted me confusions below.

    They both have rthe new keyboard, only the Pro has that Touchbar thingy, is that useful?

    Oh, they're both the same price.


    Macbook Air 13.3" 1.1GHz
    512GB Space Grey


    2020 model
    • Barcode190199244719
    • BrandApple
    • Descriptive ColourSpace Grey
    • Detachable KeyboardN/A
    • Included Accessories-
    • Manufacturer's Warranty12 month
    • Model NumberMVH22X/A
    • Operating System EditionMacOS Catalina
    • Product Dimensions (mm)304.1W x 212.4D x 16.1H mm
    • Product Weight (kg)1.29 kg
    Connectivity
    • Bluetooth CompatibilityBluetooth 5.0
    • Internet ConnectivityWireless
    • Wireless Protocols802.11ac
    Display
    • Display Resolution1680 x 1050
    • Display Size (Diagonal)13.3 in
    • Display TypeRetina
    • Touch ScreenN/A
    • Video Resolution1080p FHD
    Manufacturer
    • Country of ManufactureChina
    • Part NumberMVH22XA
    Photo and Video Capture
    • Integrated Webcam-
    • Primary Camera Video720p HD
    Ports
    • Headphone/Speaker Ports (3.5mm Audio Out)1
    • Mic/Aux Ports (3.5mm Audio In)-
    • Number of USB-C Ports2
    Power
    • Battery TechnologyLithium-polymer
    • Power & Charging InterfaceUSB-C
    • Run Time (Up To) Hours11 hours
    Processor and Memory
    • 64-bit ComputingYes
    • Graphics ProcessorIntel Iris Plus Graphics
    • Max Processor Clock Speed3.5 GHz
    • Number of Processor CoresQuad-Core
    • Primary Processor NumberCore i5
    • Primary Processor TypeCore i5
    • Processor Clock Speed1.1 GHz
    • Processor Generation10
    • Processor ManufacturerIntel
    • RAM Installed Size8 GB
    • RAM Maximum Capacity8 GB
    • RAM Technology3733MHz LPDDR4X
    Storage
    • Hard Drive Capacity512 GB
    • Installed Storage TypeSSD
    • Supported Flash Memory Cards-
    MacBook Pro 13.3"
    1.4GHz 256GB 2 x Thun…


    2020 model
    • Barcode190199521827
    • BrandApple
    • Descriptive ColourSpace Grey
    • Detachable KeyboardN/A
    • Included Accessories61W USB‑C Power Adapter, USB-C Charge Cable (2 m)
    • Manufacturer's Warranty12 month
    • Model NumberMXK32X/A
    • Operating System EditionmacOS Catalina
    • Product Dimensions (mm)304.1W x 212.4D x 15.6H mm
    • Product Weight (kg)1.4 kg
    Connectivity
    • Bluetooth CompatibilityBluetooth 5.0
    • Internet ConnectivityWireless
    • Wireless Protocols802.11ac
    Display
    • Display Resolution1680 x 1050
    • Display Size (Diagonal)13.3 in
    • Display TypeRetina
    • Touch ScreenN/A
    • Video Resolution1080p FHD
    Manufacturer
    • Country of ManufactureChina
    • Part NumberMXK32XA
    Photo and Video Capture
    • Integrated WebcamYes
    • Primary Camera Video720p HD
    Ports
    • Headphone/Speaker Ports (3.5mm Audio Out)-
    • Mic/Aux Ports (3.5mm Audio In)1
    • Number of USB-C Ports2
    Power
    • Battery TechnologyLithium-polymer
    • Power & Charging InterfaceUSB-C
    • Run Time (Up To) Hours10 hours
    Processor and Memory
    • 64-bit ComputingYes
    • Graphics ProcessorIntel Iris Plus Graphics 645
    • Max Processor Clock Speed3.9 GHz
    • Number of Processor CoresQuad-Core
    • Primary Processor NumberCore i5
    • Primary Processor TypeCore i5
    • Processor Clock Speed1.4 GHz
    • Processor Generation8
    • Processor ManufacturerIntel
    • RAM Installed Size8 GB
    • RAM Maximum Capacity8 GB
    • RAM Technology2133MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory
    Storage
    • Hard Drive Capacity256 GB
    • Installed Storage TypeSSD
    • Supported Flash Memory CardsN/A


    PS. isn't wasn't me who posted up Apple FanBoi hate threads on the old Myspace, I mean PBB site, in the old days, ok


    Thanks internet friends, and I couldn't quickly vertically set up the info tables parent/child crap above, sorry.

    #2
    I run an old Macbook Pro

    Both my kids had Airs through their school

    Glancing at your specs, I'm not seeing a significant difference except half the storage on the Pro


    "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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      #3
      Also, none of ours had the little touch bar thingy


      "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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        #4
        The air has the 10th gen processor,
        the pro the old 8th gen.

        and the ports are different, I don't know what's handier on Macs

        That's why i'm bit confused

        I'm supposed to be driving to work, gotta go, any help appreciated

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          #5
          Originally posted by 3nuts* View Post
          The air has the 10th gen processor,
          the pro the old 8th gen.

          and the ports are different, I don't know what's handier on Macs

          That's why i'm bit confused

          I'm supposed to be driving to work, gotta go, any help appreciated
          but both are quadcore and it looks like the pro is actually faster


          "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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            #6
            $2279 for pro with 512g SSD


            "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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              #7
              A lot of the latest gen Mac's have their ssds soldered in making the internal storage un-upgradable. Just been over this with a neighbor who's a DJ wanted more storage space in his new 16" pro. £3,000 and you can't even upgrade the HDD? I spent a third of that on my new 17" laptop which has more grunt, an actual Nvidia GPU, a dual SSD/HDD and is actually upgradable. Fuck Apple and their proprietary un-upgradable junk
              Last edited by OllieNZ; 06-04-2020, 04:04 PM.

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                #8
                To answer your question I'd take the air over the pro given those specs.

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                  #9
                  The guys at work are set up, they'll be fine without me first thing this morning, so I'm back.

                  Originally posted by Paragon View Post
                  $2279 for pro with 512g SSD
                  Maxing out at $1999 here

                  It's the next gen processor being on the Air, yet it's slower, that has me as a choice to make.



                  I forgot to say, I want to use AutoCAD on it every now and then. I'm assuming that will be a shit experience overall.


                  The below might help see the diffs clearer
                  Macbook Air 13.3" 1.1GHz
                  512GB Space Grey


                  Processor Generation10

                  RAM Technology3733MHz LPDDR4X

                  Max Processor Clock Speed3.5 GHz

                  Processor Clock Speed1.1 GHz

                  Hard Drive Capacity512 GB

                  Run Time (Up To) Hours11 hours

                  Headphone/Speaker Ports (3.5mm Audio Out)1

                  Mic/Aux Ports (3.5mm Audio In)-NONE

                  Touch Bar (Keyboard added feature) NO
                  MacBook Pro 13.3"
                  1.4GHz 256GB 2 x Thun…


                  Processor Generation8

                  RAM Technology2133MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory

                  Max Processor Clock Speed3.9 GHz


                  Processor Clock Speed1.4 GHz

                  Hard Drive Capacity256 GB

                  Run Time (Up To) Hours10 hours

                  Headphone/Speaker Ports (3.5mm Audio Out)-NONE

                  Mic/Aux Ports (3.5mm Audio In)1

                  Touch Bar (Keyboard added feature) YES

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by OllieNZ View Post
                    A lot of the latest gen Mac's have their ssds soldered in making the internal storage un-upgradable. Just been over this with a neighbor who's a DJ wanted more storage space in his new 16" pro. £3,000 and you can't even upgrade the HDD? I spent a third of that on my new 17" laptop which has more grunt, an actual Nvidia GPU, a dual SSD/HDD and is actually upgradable. Fuck Apple and their proprietary un-upgradable junk
                    We have three good PC laptops here, that mostly do everyrthing I've ever needed them to, and one good desktop that i had made for gaming. All ssd'ed for the win, and easily reconfigurable

                    I am trying really really hard to supress my Apple..umm..ahhh...thoughts

                    I've only just confided in one close friend, that I'm about to actually buy a Macbook. He thinks it's hilarious. But all my friends and family here, except 2, have iPhones and ios stuff, so I can't share any apps with them unless I get an Apple machine. I don't have time for making up a hackintosh or sign up for online cloud ios Xcode programming scenarios (which from memory is a thing you can do with Apple also).

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                      #11
                      2 things that as a user you'll benefit from more than a slightly higher base processor speed are the ddr4 ram and bigger storage both will have a larger positive impact on your user experience.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by OllieNZ View Post
                        To answer your question I'd take the air over the pro given those specs.
                        Thanks.

                        I'm still perplexed. $1997 perplexed. It started out as the intro spec Air, until I stepped in and said, "For a little bit more..."

                        Friday early here. Hard week and I'm a bit mentally fried





                        Last edited by 3nuts*; 06-04-2020, 04:30 PM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by 3nuts* View Post

                          Thanks.

                          I'm still perplexed. $1997 perplexed. It started out as the intro spec Air, until I stepped in and said, "For a little bit more..."

                          Friday early here. Hard week and I'm a bit mentally fried





                          It's a bitter pill to swallow.....
                          Just out of interest what do you need a Mac for? I've not come across a Mac file I can't open on windows but I have come across file formats a Mac won't touch but no issues with a PC.
                          Maybe a cheap refurbed iPad would be enough apple functionality without breaking the bank?

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                            #14
                            My wife and my son have Airs, I'm on my 4th pro, the latest being a 2020. I despise that F'n bar, I just want my F keys to be there.

                            Most of the time I have the lid closed, using their 'Magic' keyboard, and it's hooked up to two thunderbolt displays... which is my only other complaint. It seems to go full ReRe when unplugging displays. Like it doesn't know what to do for a minute. My last one (2018) would instantly adjust .....

                            but to answer your question ....I'll give you the same answer I give most people .... buy whats at the top of your budget so it lasts longer.
                            America is all about speed, hot nasty bad ass speed.
                            -Elenore Roosevelt

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                              #15
                              the problem I have with my mac and running a display is that the mac get so damn hot that some shit comes on and starts slowing down processing because it's hot from running the display


                              "For God and country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo"

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