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    I need a pump that gives good head!!

    SO here is my project to start. A ghetto pool heater. YES, I had a thread at the other place but I never ended up doing it last summer. I aint going back over there and I never really got what I was looking for anyways.

    Here is my yard and pool.

    I am going to coil-up two 500' rolls of 3/4" black irrigation poly tubing in parallel on the top of my patio cover. Probably add more over the summer. I need a smallish, QUIET pump that will push the water up there from the pool.

    Ideally, I do NOT want a submersible as I don't want to have to take it in and out and run power to it and have a cord always out.

    I would love to have a 12v pump with a shitty car battery and solar charger from HF on the deck top where it is out of the way and I don't have to look at it. I could run wires down with the tubing to the pool for a submersible pump but again, a pump on the roof would be more better if I can find one that will self prime at that height. I don't even know if that is possible.

    Again, quiet it key. I don't want it to sound like EverDouche is analing himself with his vibrator all day out here.

    What you got??
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    Once you get it full of water, the suction from it coming back down will do most the work. Once it's full the pump won't being doing much more than circulation.

    Also, thats a lot of weight to put on a shitty patio cover.

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ID:	26809 I was thinking that is a lot of friction loss in 1000' of ¾ poly pipe. This says hose but should be close.
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ID:	26809 I was thinking that is a lot of friction loss in 1000' of ¾ poly pipe. This says hose but should be close.
        What if he puts a y in it? Would that reduce loss? Two parallel runs of 500ft

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          #5
          Originally posted by not2hye View Post

          What if he puts a y in it? Would that reduce loss? Two parallel runs of 500ft
          Yes it would.

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            #6
            Originally posted by bdkw1 View Post
            Once you get it full of water, the suction from it coming back down will do most the work. Once it's full the pump won't being doing much more than circulation.

            Also, thats a lot of weight to put on a shitty patio cover.
            How is it shitty?
            Long Days and Pleasant Nights

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              #7
              I have no idea what all this friction loss means. I guess I do in theory.....resistance and all that but how does effect what I am doing here and a pump choice for me?
              Long Days and Pleasant Nights

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                #8
                Originally posted by M92PV4U View Post

                Yes it would.
                Originally posted by dntsdad View Post
                I have no idea what all this friction loss means. I guess I do in theory.....resistance and all that but how does effect what I am doing here and a pump choice for me?
                It’s the pressure required to flow x amount thru z size and y length hose right?

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                  #9
                  I don't know shit about friction loss... but for making the pump quiet check out what they do for generators in RV camp grounds. Several years ago I looked into building a box to quiet the genny... then I sold the travel trailer as we never used it. Anyhow, with something as small as a pump you could even disguise it as a planter box or light at the base of your support beam. Quick Google search found this. https://soundproofguide.com/diy-generator-quiet-box/

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by not2hye View Post



                    It’s the pressure required to flow x amount thru z size and y length hose right?
                    Link to definition https://www.softschools.com/formulas...riction%20loss.
                    So you have to factor in your head pressure plus flow loss.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bdkw1 View Post
                      Also, thats a lot of weight to put on a shitty patio cover.
                      It's not that heavy, ~200lb
                      Hey, don't lob factual statements at me as if they're insults

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                        #12
                        This seems like what I want and I like the stashing it in a planter by the support base.

                        I just need to find this that will self prime to get from the pool to the pump

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                          #13
                          Have you tried your mom and sister?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dntsdad View Post
                            SO here is my project to start. A ghetto pool heater. YES, I had a thread at the other place but I never ended up doing it last summer. I aint going back over there and I never really got what I was looking for anyways.

                            Here is my yard and pool.

                            I am going to coil-up two 500' rolls of 3/4" black irrigation poly tubing in parallel on the top of my patio cover. Probably add more over the summer. I need a smallish, QUIET pump that will push the water up there from the pool.

                            Ideally, I do NOT want a submersible as I don't want to have to take it in and out and run power to it and have a cord always out.

                            I would love to have a 12v pump with a shitty car battery and solar charger from HF on the deck top where it is out of the way and I don't have to look at it. I could run wires down with the tubing to the pool for a submersible pump but again, a pump on the roof would be more better if I can find one that will self prime at that height. I don't even know if that is possible.

                            Again, quiet it key. I don't want it to sound like EverDouche is analing himself with his vibrator all day out here.

                            What you got??
                            It's amazing that that cinder-block aesthetic works in the southwest. Sure if you let it get run down it looks ugly and industrial, but something about it being mostly dirt and rocks out there makes the cinder blocks ok. I like the distressed wood crown, is that a typical decoration on these things?

                            Cinderblocks ain't worth a shit in a firefight but it's a pretty secure fortress nonetheless.

                            Also that patio is shaded but the radiation off of the concrete has got to be intense. I'd bet that spot gets up to 130F in the summer. Desert houses should have an 8' awning all the way around them and this entire patio should be covered.

                            Also stop buying shit from HF you fucking traitor.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pukemaggots View Post

                              It's not that heavy, ~200lb
                              The water alone is 270ish.

                              OK, maybe not shitty but not designed to carry loads.

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