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    Police spinoff, unconventional idea

    I was reading the policing thread and came up with interesting idea. Not sure if it would work. What say Irate?

    They could create a federal police force that only has jurisdiction over police. It can't harass civilians in anyway. They could run all kinds of "sting" operations. They could investigate complaints about police. But they would not be "brothers in blue". It's kind of like internal affairs, but exturnal. It would give police the same fear that civilians have.

    Could this work?
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    #2
    isn't that the FBI?

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      #3
      So create more government entity’s?

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        #4
        Or make local internal affairs offices separate and report directly to the governor or mayor 🤷‍♂️

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          #5
          I was thinking something along the lines of:

          Police would be used for things like murder, theft, DV, accident ect investigations and would no longer be just out on patrol. Stuff they used to "patrol" for like speeding ect would be left up to the people to call in if they deemed it necessary. If they implemented something like this just imagine how many more REAL crimes would be solved instead of them just out revenue generating...... Would never happen though. State and local governments would loose to much revenue by only concentrating on real crimes.

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            #6
            make criminal activity illegal

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              #7

              https://www.motherjones.com/crime-ju...-george-floyd/


              When Trump finally fired Sessions in November 2018, the outgoing attorney general had one final trick up his sleeve. Before leaving the Justice Department, he quietly signed a memorandum in one of his last official acts all but ending the department’s oversight of police departments. The memorandum made the Trump administration’s de facto policy against new consent decrees official, while extending the same hands-off policy to other areas of federal enforcement involving state responsibilities in areas like pollution and voting rights. Experts predicted that even departments already under current federal oversight might once again act with impunity because the memo undercut the authority of civil rights attorneys to enforce them. Sessions’ memo set policy, but it also sent a message to police departments that they would no longer have to answer to the federal government—not even when when officer shootings draw national attention.

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                #8
                The solution to too much policing is not creating more police!

                The answer is to refocus police on investigating real crime such as murder, assault, rape, robbery, burglary, and arson. Equipping cops with computers and plate readers then sending them out to harass motorists and pedestrians is fawking ridiculous.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE View Post
                  https://www.motherjones.com/crime-ju...-george-floyd/


                  When Trump finally fired Sessions in November 2018, the outgoing attorney general had one final trick up his sleeve. Before leaving the Justice Department, he quietly signed a memorandum in one of his last official acts all but ending the department’s oversight of police departments. The memorandum made the Trump administration’s de facto policy against new consent decrees official, while extending the same hands-off policy to other areas of federal enforcement involving state responsibilities in areas like pollution and voting rights. Experts predicted that even departments already under current federal oversight might once again act with impunity because the memo undercut the authority of civil rights attorneys to enforce them. Sessions’ memo set policy, but it also sent a message to police departments that they would no longer have to answer to the federal government—not even when when officer shootings draw national attention.

                  why would a state police department have to answer to the Fed government anyway? IIRC, Fed control of state police is not an enumerated power.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by WaterH View Post
                    I was reading the policing thread and came up with interesting idea. Not sure if it would work. What say Irate?

                    They could create a federal police force that only has jurisdiction over police. It can't harass civilians in anyway. They could run all kinds of "sting" operations. They could investigate complaints about police. But they would not be "brothers in blue". It's kind of like internal affairs, but exturnal. It would give police the same fear that civilians have.

                    Could this work?
                    You mean like the DOJ, FBI, OIG, Internal Affairs? Its actually a good idea and they actually do exist its just gotten twisted in some cases and just unknown in others.

                    A streamlined state run internal affairs for all local PD and a federal agency for state depts would make things more accountable. One of the biggest hurdles is the union issue. Unions wont go along with it an politicians are scared to take them on.

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                      #11
                      any police involved excessive use of force complaints. any police involved deaths. should be regulated at the fed level. they've clearly shown they can't police themselves, hence the current situation we're in.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE View Post
                        ...they can't police themselves, hence the current situation we're in.
                        I thought the 4 cops got fired pronto for causing Mr. Floyd's death

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by det107 View Post

                          I thought the 4 cops got fired pronto for causing Mr. Floyd's death
                          justice isn't firing them. also they got fired so quickly its the game. the union will argue the dept didn't follow union contract for review etc etc and in a few months they would get their jobs back with back pay. its a story as old as police unions.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RusM View Post
                            isn't that the FBI?
                            Does the FBI have authority over civilians? Read it again. I want this entity to only have authority over cops. (Including the FBI)
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