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    Honk Kong - Ripe for some shit to go down

    The situation in HK is ripe for violence. HK residents have accused the PRC of violating their 1984 agreement to "One Country, Two Systems" by eroding HK residents rights. PRC is cracking down in the name of "public safety". They have declared protesting counter to public order and are attempting to install some very vague laws under the guise of fighting "terrorism". It's an approach repeated throughout history. We will see what happens.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52824839

    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has told Congress that Hong Kong no longer merits special treatment under US law.

    The declaration could have major implications for Hong Kong's trade hub status and is likely to anger Beijing.

    "No reasonable person can assert today that Hong Kong maintains a high degree of autonomy from China, given facts on the ground," he said in a statement.

    It follows Beijing's plan to impose a controversial new security law on the territory.

    The security law was "only the latest in a series of actions that fundamentally undermine Hong Kong's autonomy and freedoms," Mr Pompeo said.

    "It is now clear that China is modelling Hong Kong after itself," he added.
    Trump closed the loophole for China, and this means they can't duck under the Tarrifs or any possible future sanctions.

    It also means the HKers might feel abandoned but they knew this was coming and it's necessary for the greater war.

    Is this the opening shot of WWIII?

    The US got into WWII by imposing an airplane-parts embargo on the Empire of Japan in 1938 because they were bombing civilians in China. This went tit-for-tat until the Oil Embargo which ended as we all know on Dec 7 1941 when the Japanese were either going to have to end their war in Manchukuo or go to war with Britan, France, the Netherlands, Australia, and the United States in order to get oil from the Dutch East Indies (Java and Sumatra modern-day Indonesia).

    I feel bad for the HKers but it's gotta be.

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    Last edited by evernoob; 05-28-2020, 10:49 AM.

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      #3
      Hong Kong is now under CCP control. Ain't nobody going to swoop in and start WW3 to prove otherwise.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Action Fab View Post
        Hong Kong is now under CCP control. Ain't nobody going to swoop in and start WW3 to prove otherwise.
        Correct... standing with them stops at words...

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          #5
          Originally posted by flecker View Post

          Correct... standing with them stops at words...
          Like one of Obama's "sternly worded warnings" ?


          Now, before people here get their titties in a flutter...………………………… that was sarcasm.
          Non Lemming

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            #6
            Not exactly THE beginning, but this started years ago.

            The beginning of the Democracy Protests
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests

            There's more at stake here than PRC ownership of HK. It's a world financial center with huge implications in global trade.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ View Post

              Like one of Obama's "sternly worded warnings" ?


              Now, before people here get their titties in a flutter...………………………… that was sarcasm.
              Meh, the engrish leased it for 100 years, they were always going to get HK back... now they are doing what they have been doing and people are shocked and confused.

              Math is hard.

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                Originally posted by Pony_Driver View Post
                Not exactly THE beginning, but this started years ago.

                The beginning of the Democracy Protests
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests

                There's more at stake here than PRC ownership of HK. It's a world financial center with huge implications in global trade.
                It's not The Beginning, but it is the first Nuclear Option.

                PRC basically gets all of their FDI through HK, they steal protected Intellectual Property through HK, they import and export through HK.... and much more. Trump just shut that faucet off.

                Here's the next Nuclear Option rushing through the Congress right now,

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                Unanimous.

                Problem is, it gives them 3 years to comply, but a House revision could move that time-table up.

                With the elections on, nobody wants to be the one arguing to play nice with the Chinese.

                Shit's all long overdue. I say blockade them now. Ya'll don't need no more HF crap.





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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pony_Driver View Post
                  Not exactly THE beginning, but this started years ago.

                  The beginning of the Democracy Protests
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests

                  There's more at stake here than PRC ownership of HK. It's a world financial center with huge implications in global trade.
                  I can't recommend Disunited Nations by Peter Zeihan enough.

                  If you don't want to read the book, I'm sure you'll get the needed picture from this lecture. It comes with pretty pictures too..

                  Last edited by Action Fab; 05-28-2020, 12:16 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by flecker View Post

                    Meh, the engrish leased it for 100 years, they were always going to get HK back... now they are doing what they have been doing and people are shocked and confused.

                    Math is hard.
                    Actually the lease was for the "New Territories" for 99 years. Hong Kong itself wasn't a lease, and neither was Kowloon.
                    Non Lemming

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ View Post

                      Actually the lease was for the "New Territories" for 99 years. Hong Kong itself wasn't a lease, and neither was Kowloon.
                      On June 9, 1898, the British under Queen Victoria brokered a99-year lease agreementfor the use of Hong Kong after China lost a series of wars fought over the British trade in tea and opium... actually, it was leased.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by evernoob View Post

                        It's not The Beginning, but it is the first Nuclear Option.

                        PRC basically gets all of their FDI through HK, they steal protected Intellectual Property through HK, they import and export through HK.... and much more. Trump just shut that faucet off.

                        Here's the next Nuclear Option rushing through the Congress right now,

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                        Unanimous.

                        Problem is, it gives them 3 years to comply, but a House revision could move that time-table up.

                        With the elections on, nobody wants to be the one arguing to play nice with the Chinese.

                        Shit's all long overdue. I say blockade them now. Ya'll don't need no more HF crap.
                        I 100% understand this. I told my son I hope we seize the opportunity with this COVID outbreak to break it off in China's ass. Supply chains are idled, their predatory practices are on display. Fuck em, build new factories in Vietnam and India, the Philippines, etc. Let the PRC deal with a billion plus pissed off citizens demanding food, jobs, and freedom.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by flecker View Post

                          On June 9, 1898, the British under Queen Victoria brokered a99-year lease agreementfor the use of Hong Kong after China lost a series of wars fought over the British trade in tea and opium... actually, it was leased.
                          During the second half of the 19th century, the British had grown increasingly worried about the security of their free port at Hong Kong. It was an isolated island, surrounded by areas still under Chinese control. The British decided the answer would be to lease a buffer zone around Hong Kong that would make the island less vulnerable to invasion.[citation needed]

                          In 1860, at the end of the Second Opium War, the UK gained a perpetual lease over the Kowloon Peninsula, which is the mainland Chinese area just across the strait from Hong Kong Island. This agreement was part of the Convention of Beijing that ended that conflict.[citation needed]

                          In 1898, the British and Chinese governments signed the Second Convention of Peking, which included a 99-year lease agreement for the islands surrounding Hong Kong, called the "New Territories". The lease awarded control of more than 200 surrounding small islands to the British. In return, China received a promise that the islands would be returned to it after 99 years, at the end of the single negotiated term of lease.[citation needed]

                          On 19 December 1984, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and Chinese Premier Zhao Ziyang signed the Sino-British Joint Declaration, in which Britain agreed to return not only the New Territories but also Kowloon and Hong Kong itself when the lease term expired. China promised to implement a "One Country, Two Systems" regime, under which for fifty years Hong Kong citizens could continue to practice capitalism and political freedoms forbidden on the mainland.[citation needed]


                          Kowloon was a perpetual lease, which is a defacto cede of territory.
                          Non Lemming

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by flecker View Post

                            On June 9, 1898, the British under Queen Victoria brokered a99-year lease agreementfor the use of Hong Kong after China lost a series of wars fought over the British trade in tea and opium... actually, it was leased.
                            "Hong Kong" is comprised of Hong Kong Island (British rule in 1842 after the 1st Opium War) Kowloon Peninsula (British rule since 1860 after the second Opium War) and the New Territories were leased in 1898.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pony_Driver View Post

                              "Hong Kong" is comprised of Hong Kong Island (British rule in 1842 after the 1st Opium War) Kowloon Peninsula (British rule since 1860 after the second Opium War) and the New Territories were leased in 1898.
                              Thank you.
                              Non Lemming

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