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    Buying a boat - sea doo or ?

    Well I am in the market for a boat, sort of. My wife and I would like to get out on the water more. We are kind of torn between bass boats and open bow boats. A fish and ski seems the the perfect compromise, but the prices for those are higher than giraffe pussy. One boat that's caught my eye is a sea doo speedster.

    its the only non outboard boat I would consider. Everything I'm reading about them says they are great boats. However; their jet boats, made for wake boarding, there's gotta be a catch. They can't be as fun and powerful as everyone claims and not be some sort of major common problem.

    Anybody have any experience with them? Should I steer clear? Should I jump on a good deal?

    #2
    Something to consider.

    it’s said in the boating world that the two best days of a boat owners life are....
    the day he buys it, and the day he sells it.

    I live waterfront on the 2nd largest lake in Texas, I’ve owned boats and personal water craft. We have our own ramp for the sub division. We gave away our last pair of PWC two years after our daughter left for college because they were rotting away from lack of use.
    We have neighbors that have boats that haven’t seen the lake in years, those boats are rotting away as well, and I’m not talking about POS boats.

    Couple of things that I finally figured out.
    1) unless boating is going to be your main form of family entertainment, you probably won’t use your boat as often as you think. As time goes by, 2nd, 3rd season use will gradually become even less.

    2) boats have expenses attached that most don’t consider in the initial purchase.
    upkeep, storage, insurance, and the big one depreciation.


    I love boating and being on the water don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to tell you what to do, or how to spend your money. Simply offering a view that you may not have seen yet.

    We have a marina close by that rents boats by the day, weekend, or week.
    they are very nice boats, they have fishing boats, run a bouts/ski boats, and pontoon/party boats.
    these boats average about $500 a day.

    I can rent a very nice boat for a 3 day weekend 3-4 times a year, and be several grand ahead at the end of the year.
    All the fun of a boat, whatever boat fits my needs at the time.
    No boat payment, no upkeep, no storage or insurance, and no loss from depreciation. They also sell the rentals every year or two, so the boats are always almost new.

    I live “on the lake” and I’m 99.9% sure that I will never own another boat.

    You got money to throw in the lake?
    if not, consider my opinion for a moment.
    Boat ownership ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, and there’s better/cheaper ways to enjoy boating.

    best of luck with whatever you do.


    edit:
    if you are wanting to “wakeboard” you may want to look at a SeaDoo “wake” over the “speedster”
    Last edited by Pmedic920; 05-27-2020, 10:01 PM.

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      #3
      The Fish & Ski boats are a great compromise but you're right about the price. The reason being is there are less made and therefore less in the used market so it keeps the prices up. I've been there and done that. Enjoyed it very much.

      I've owned boats since I bought my 1st boat,motor and trailer when I was 16. Since then I've owned and operated just about every style of boat there is except a Sailboat. I wouldn't waste the gas of dragging a free one home. True story more than once

      What is your main use for the boat going to be ? Jet boats are a great choice when dealing with shallow water or a place where the weeds etc in the water are thick in the areas you want to travel. Other than that they lack in other areas compared to a standard outboard.

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        #4
        We used to have a little tri hull with a merc on it. We got it from my wifes parents when they divorced. We used the shit out of that thing! It started having some electrical problems and was pretty small. We sold it, now I'm having a hard time convincing the wife to get another one. That was 8 yrs ago. I would like a 19 ft open bow V6 with a wake board tower. Never sell a toy until you got one to replace it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Pmedic920 View Post
          Something to consider.

          it’s said in the boating world that the two best days of a boat owners life are....
          the day he buys it, and the day he sells it.

          Couple of things that I finally figured out.
          1) unless boating is going to be your main form of family entertainment, you probably won’t use your boat as often as you think. As time goes by, 2nd, 3rd season use will gradually become even less.

          2) boats have expenses attached that most don’t consider in the initial purchase.
          upkeep, storage, insurance, and the big one depreciation.


          I love boating and being on the water don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to tell you what to do, or how to spend your money. Simply offering a view that you may not have seen yet.
          A lot of truth in that first statement.

          I have no idea why OP wants to buy a boat for, besides water, but expenses are purely how you make them.

          I bought a $10,000 boat last year, besides all the fuel it drinks, its still a $10,000 boat. It took me a year before i pulled the trigger on it. Just research, and research more on what brands stand the test of time. I scooped it up because the woman who had it got tired of paying dry storage for 15+ years on a something she put a total of 86 hrs on. protip: dont buy a bayliner.

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            #6
            Originally posted by TRINDU View Post
            protip: dont buy a bayliner.
            I've had several Bayliners in various sizes. This statement holds true for me as well. The 24 ft rode terrible like always on its side type of terrible. It rocked back and forth so bad anchored,it would make even the hard core miserable. I sold that thing to a young guy with a death wish.

            They are also a paper thin Hull boat compared to most. The 17ft I had was a nice lil run about but it hated any kind of rough water. Felt like it was going to split down the middle when you hit a wave.

            19 ft Fish & Ski was a little better but I mainly used that for me to Bass fish on the front while there was room in the back for the Bikini clad gals to hang out so no complaints there

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              #7
              Originally posted by Pmedic920 View Post
              Something to consider.

              it’s said in the boating world that the two best days of a boat owners life are....
              the day he buys it, and the day he sells it.

              I live waterfront on the 2nd largest lake in Texas, I’ve owned boats and personal water craft. We have our own ramp for the sub division. We gave away our last pair of PWC two years after our daughter left for college because they were rotting away from lack of use.
              We have neighbors that have boats that haven’t seen the lake in years, those boats are rotting away as well, and I’m not talking about POS boats.

              Couple of things that I finally figured out.
              1) unless boating is going to be your main form of family entertainment, you probably won’t use your boat as often as you think. As time goes by, 2nd, 3rd season use will gradually become even less.

              2) boats have expenses attached that most don’t consider in the initial purchase.
              upkeep, storage, insurance, and the big one depreciation.


              I love boating and being on the water don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to tell you what to do, or how to spend your money. Simply offering a view that you may not have seen yet.

              We have a marina close by that rents boats by the day, weekend, or week.
              they are very nice boats, they have fishing boats, run a bouts/ski boats, and pontoon/party boats.
              these boats average about $500 a day.

              I can rent a very nice boat for a 3 day weekend 3-4 times a year, and be several grand ahead at the end of the year.
              All the fun of a boat, whatever boat fits my needs at the time.
              No boat payment, no upkeep, no storage or insurance, and no loss from depreciation. They also sell the rentals every year or two, so the boats are always almost new.

              I live “on the lake” and I’m 99.9% sure that I will never own another boat.

              You got money to throw in the lake?
              if not, consider my opinion for a moment.
              Boat ownership ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, and there’s better/cheaper ways to enjoy boating.

              best of luck with whatever you do.


              edit:
              if you are wanting to “wakeboard” you may want to look at a SeaDoo “wake” over the “speedster”
              Good post.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TRINDU View Post

                A lot of truth in that first statement.

                I have no idea why OP wants to buy a boat for, besides water, but expenses are purely how you make them.

                I bought a $10,000 boat last year, besides all the fuel it drinks, its still a $10,000 boat. It took me a year before i pulled the trigger on it. Just research, and research more on what brands stand the test of time. I scooped it up because the woman who had it got tired of paying dry storage for 15+ years on a something she put a total of 86 hrs on. protip: dont buy a bayliner.
                Did something similar about 5 years ago now, bought a $7k boat that i think is still worth at least 6... runs great, pulls a wakeboard/ski/tube no problem and you can fish from anything that floats. Don't regret the purchase at all

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Xicor View Post
                  and you can fish from anything that floats. Don't regret the purchase at all
                  You ever tried fishing from a 26-32 ft Scarab with Twin 7.4 454 Engines with an Outdrive ?

                  Probably not

                  I have and it sucked. The window goes all the way to the back of the Transom. No way to get the fish in when it takes off to either side of the boat.Its miserable even trying. I've Fished and Fucked in Every boat I've Ever owned. Anymore questions ?

                  The only thing those boats were good for was burning LOTS ​​​​​of fuel and fucking. Had a little kitchenette in the Bow of 1 of then that had a wash sink and facing reclining chairs. The women liked it but I couldn't afford that much fun ​​​​​​

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                    #10
                    Good friend had one of the early Seadoo speedsters and we took it out several times.
                    It was basicaly 2 jet ski drivetrains in the back of the boat, separate throttles for each. Would turn on a dime. Was fun.

                    If I was in the market for a boat I would look at a pontoon. If you aren't going to be out on the lake a bunch, which happens, you pretty much need to make a day of it for it to be worthwhile, look at rentals. Will save you a lot of hassle.

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                      #11
                      x2 on it being as expensive as you make it. An old all fiberglass inboard will go for a season with nothing but gas and fuel stabilize most seasons. When you do happen to need tune up parts or gaskets they're cheap car parts.

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                        #12
                        We've got a small Whaler that has been great. 13' and a 40hp on it. Moves right along.

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                          #13
                          One thing to think about is fuel cost.16 year ago I had a pair of hot rod jet skis.they loved the fuel you could kill a hundered dollar bill after work.the speedster has 2 motors

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                            #14
                            Much like anything there isnt 1 style of boat that does everything well. I have a 23 tritoon with a 150 yamaha on it. Its great for drinking, fishing, and just general hanging out. It can be used for tubing and skiing, but its not very good at it and it drinks tons of gas. With all that being said, we use it pretty much every weekend in the summer and are very happy with it. When the kids want to tube ski or surf we borrow a friends boat.

                            Jet boats in general are less efficient, so they burn more gas. You also have to consider where you are going to use it. If you start running jet boats up into the lilly's for bass you are going to suck up muck and clog your impeller. You can clean it out, but it gets old in a hurry.

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                              #15
                              Not sure of your location - but like stated earlier if there is a boat club/rental/membership place nearby - definitely worth a look.

                              I just became a member of "Freedom Boat Club" and so far it has been awesome. Goes like this:

                              - 1 time membership fee (+/- $7000) - think of this as "buying" a boat - BUT you're buying into every boat in the club
                              - One set monthly payments (+/- $300) depending on if you want all locations in the club or not (USA, Canada, France, Aus, etc.)
                              - You pay for fuel consumed
                              - You make a reservation, show up to the dock, boat you've selected is ready and fueled up. Use the boat. Come back to the dock and hand over the keys. Walk away.

                              No boat ramp. No maintenance. No insurance. No storage. No cleaning. Its all the best parts of boating, and none of the worst. Multitude of boats to choose from. You're not tied down to one boat.

                              I happen to be within 3 different locations within 30 minutes from me. Want to cruise the river? Go with the pontoon boat. Want to fish the flats/offshore? Go with the center console. Want to take the kids tubing? Go with the wake boat.

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