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    Migrating your PBB data

    This is a long post, but since I've already been asked several times I wanted to explain the decision so you don’t think I was just baiting and switching you all........



    If you seen the post on PBB my initial plan to scrape our posts on PBB in order to save the history. I was going down that path for a while before deciding to change directions. I spent a good deal of time, and money, speaking to copyright attorneys (American) about the process I was going to use. Which in a nutshell was:
    1. Download the entire PBB site, which I got 70% of before stopping. Per TOU on PBB downloading the site for personal use is permitted
    2. They were preparing a legal document each member would have to sign basically giving me the right to act on your behalf in order to copy and paste your original content into IBB.
    3. Then, acting as you I can run my script on my local copy for you.
    4. Done.

    This was the best legal option from my attorney. They are American and PBB specifically follows the governances of Toronto. I wasn’t willing to spend more for them to get a Canadian advisor. There were some possible issues with the above plan like when you would have posted somebody’s else’s content or a story from another site. I didn’t script any of that intelligence into what I was doing, not that it couldn’t be at some point.

    If you do some research on VS and lawsuits, they have been involved in several and they are some real assholes. My attorney pointed out (and I’m probably poorly relaying legal issues here) that PBB’s copyright is in their TOU, which …. Is a Terms of Use. Meaning … what are they going to do to you for violating it? Ban you? Anyway, they still ferociously have gone after sites that had done a mirror of a site they tanked. They have gone so far as to claim copywrite violations on major brand logos posted on their site. My guy was not sure how they could sue with a TOU like that but that’s all they need to keep doing. Suing. Suing till the defendant is broke. Their parent company, Torstar, is a massive Canadian media conglomerate that has the FU money to throw at cases like this allday. If they don’t win in court, they simply have your site blocked by the state so nobody can get to it. I’m not making it up, you can Google the cases. They are grade A assholes.

    Sure I could do big go-fund-me’s and waste our money in court as other forums have, but I don’t see the point. As it was even mentioned to me today even some of the best, holy of the holy, tech posts on Pirate ….. are a bit dated now. Certainly not all of it but a lot is.

    So … the new plan…
    Give PBB’s members a new home after VS fucks up PBB and encourage rapid rebuilding of our own updated tech by getting contributors compensated for their efforts. See my post about Blue Skulls in the Premium memberships post. I feel like that is a much better plan for members to assure that this site stays up and running for us.

    This is getting a bit lengthy for most of your attention spans but I will not be copying over your posts from PBB. If you would like to I say go for it, you will be violating their TOU and I’m not really sure what that entails legally. Don’t take any of my advice here as true legal advice. My head typically spins when at tourneys talk and I probably only take in part of it lol
    America is all about speed, hot nasty bad ass speed.
    -Elenore Roosevelt

    #2
    Originally posted by Austin View Post
    As it was even mentioned to me today even some of the best, holy of the holy, tech posts on Pirate ….. are a bit dated now. Certainly not all of it but a lot is.
    I like the new plan. It's not like we need thousands of threads with 15-20 year old tech. "D60"

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      #3
      It would rock to be able to scan an old tech post, edit in the newest tech updates and re word them for today's ibb.
      Most likely a huge headache, but much of the tech is dated.
      We get to update that by +20....
      Thanks bossman
      83, 22re,w56,ultimate duals,4:10 \31" arbs.
      hopes to grow up someday

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        #4
        I think new tech would be better. instead of comments on new posts saying just search there was a thread about it in 2004. most of the older threads ive found if the tech is still current the links, pictures or company they bought the parts from are dead

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          #5
          Hey man... I have gotten into the Toyota van community heavily... and we are all looking for a place to do write ups and whatnot. The facebook format kinda sucks for anything like that. I have waaaaaaaaaay more than enough content to start about 40 write ups, just van related. Could I start doing some write ups and invite some of the crowd here? Mostly 4x4 van related stuff. Where could I put it? Miscellaneous? I host all my pica at imgur, so it wouldn't weigh down on storage or anything...

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            #6
            Originally posted by flecker View Post
            Hey man... I have gotten into the Toyota van community heavily... and we are all looking for a place to do write ups and whatnot. The facebook format kinda sucks for anything like that. I have waaaaaaaaaay more than enough content to start about 40 write ups, just van related. Could I start doing some write ups and invite some of the crowd here? Mostly 4x4 van related stuff. Where could I put it? Miscellaneous? I host all my pica at imgur, so it wouldn't weigh down on storage or anything...
            Toyota section is already there for ya fag

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              #7
              is there a convenient way to download off of the pictures ive uploaded?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Clemson13 View Post

                Toyota section is already there for ya fag
                These guys aren't use to the flamesuits… lol. I'm gonna muck up the Misc. category with a bunch of gay van stuff. I decided.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by flecker View Post

                  These guys aren't use to the flamesuits… lol. I'm gonna muck up the Misc. category with a bunch of gay van stuff. I decided.

                  Honestly I thought you were fucking with us

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                  But now I see you're serious

                  GO ahead with the misc forum for now, if it takes off we can look into a subforum under SoccerMoms .. I mean Toyotas

                  I'll tell you the same thing to those who asked about inviting JKO members over, go for it, but we're not giving up that pirate feel .... yes flamesuits are recommended
                  America is all about speed, hot nasty bad ass speed.
                  -Elenore Roosevelt

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jeepyj View Post

                    I like the new plan. It's not like we need thousands of threads with 15-20 year old tech. "D60"

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                    We should use the blue star money to comission someone to read the SD60 thread and write us a SD60 bible.

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                      #11
                      I started transferring my build thread and noticed the 30 second repost time is too long. Drop it down to 10 seconds or less. Cutting, pasting, and uploading needs to go faster.

                      Halfway through I exceeded my picture upload limit. Uncap the limits temporarily to get more tech on the site and build it up.

                      Its got to be easier and faster to transfer our data to get more people on board.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by arse_sidewards View Post

                        We should use the blue star money to comission someone to read the SD60 thread and write us a SD60 bible.
                        This. 5.3 in Jeep thread too as it’s applicable to many vehicles.

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                          #13
                          What about the Chit Chat Classics? Would those still be considered downloadable for private use by the original poster? Seems a shame to lose some of the gems in there.

                          Screwzer, camarogenius, Wenzel, Kayla's Sunsets......the diarrhea song. Could probably due without wenzel because I'm hoping this place ends up getting its own personal version but kinda fitting to have those memorials so to speak.

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                            #14
                            If all the old data doesn’t come over how will we know if 39’s will fit on our TJs?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Abrzrkr View Post
                              If all the old data doesn’t come over how will we know if 39’s will fit on our TJs?
                              Are they thornbirds?

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